[SaugeenJunction]

I saw that a while back

150 cars or so, that has me curious since there are only 94 Series VII cars (some of which are currently undergoing refurbishment), so I wonder which of the other 60 or so cars will be repainted.

Wonder if the contract includes locomotives. I’d assume so? And if it does, I wonder if they bother painting the F59s. They seem to be on their last legs.

 

[RU479]

Wonder if the contract includes locomotives. I’d assume so? And if it does, I wonder if they bother painting the F59s. They seem to be on their last legs.

Idk. Seems only coach based for now. Part of me wonders whether they won’t bother to repaint most of the MP40s since they may get retired once electrification arrives.

 

[RU479]

The rebuilt cab cars now seem to have their doors open.

 

[RU479]

By the way, I heard GO 211 was sent to Mac Yard for further delivery to Toronto but then sent back to North Bay. Anyone have any info on that?

 

[RU479]

By the way, I heard GO 211 was sent to Mac Yard for further delivery to Toronto but then sent back to North Bay. Anyone have any info on that?

Nevermind it is now at Aldershot, to be delivered towards Toronto.

 

[RU479]

Nevermind it is now at Aldershot, to be delivered towards Toronto.

And as of today it has been delivered to Willowbrook.

Out of the 15 Series II Cab Cars sent for refurbishment, 7 have returned.

 

[Allandale25]

One of the older engines having issues?

 

[RU479]

One of the older engines having issues?

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"Operational Issue" is fairly vague, may not have had anything to do with the train.

And even so, judging by the trip affected it would have had to been one of the MPI locos.

 

[goodcitywhenfinished]

 

[RU479]

I do find his comments about claiming many cars being around 50 years old misleading.

While sure you could make that argument for the Series I and II cars, which would be approaching EOL in the next couple of years, the rest of the BiLevel fleet haven't even reached the 40 year mark yet.

Mind you, about 2/3rds of the BiLevel fleet were built within the 21st century, and retiring them now would be incredibly wasteful. I think GO not getting EMUs is not the end all be all of GO electrification, better frequencies and infrastructure upgrades are what really matter in the end.

 

[RU479]

So for some reason the 10:53 train to Aurora has bike cars on it. (image taken from miniprints railcam YT livestream)

 

[cplchanb]

I do find his comments about claiming many cars being around 50 years old misleading.

While sure you could make that argument for the Series I and II cars, which would be approaching EOL in the next couple of years, the rest of the BiLevel fleet haven't even reached the 40 year mark yet.

Mind you, about 2/3rds of the BiLevel fleet were built within the 21st century, and retiring them now would be incredibly wasteful. I think GO not getting EMUs is not the end all be all of GO electrification, better frequencies and infrastructure upgrades are what really matter in the end.

problem is if they dont invest now, we will not see any emus in our lifetimes since they will sit on their laurels and be complacent for another 50 years. the service ceiling for emus is much higher than bilevels.

 

[rbt]

problem is if they dont invest now, we will not see any emus in our lifetimes since they will sit on their laurels and be complacent for another 50 years. the service ceiling for emus is much higher than bilevels.

The contract period is much too short for the capital investment into completely new rolling stock to be worth while.

It's a 30 year operations but the first 10 years of that will be building out the tracks and installing electrification.

 

[T3G]

problem is if they dont invest now, we will not see any emus in our lifetimes since they will sit on their laurels and be complacent for another 50 years. the service ceiling for emus is much higher than bilevels.

Or, you know, they could invest into EMUs when life expired BiLevels come up for renewal.

Much more important than the rolling stock is the frequency of service and coverage area.

 

[cplchanb]

Or, you know, they could invest into EMUs when life expired BiLevels come up for renewal.

Much more important than the rolling stock is the frequency of service and coverage area.

as we saw they will stretch the life of the bilevels to beyond our lifetimes.
once you add more station density as required, the behemoth bilevel trains will be too slow to maintain frequency.
by then costs would be 2x what they are now.