[ssiguy2]

When is ML going to start converting some of these loco over to electric?

 

[cplchanb]

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When is ML going to start converting some of these loco over to electric?

2028

 

[RU479]

When is ML going to start converting some of these loco over to electric?

I’m pretty sure they are planning on buying new electric locos. I have not heard any plans to convert existing locos to electric.

 

[SaugeenJunction]

I’m pretty sure they are planning on buying new electric locos. I have not heard any plans to convert existing locos to electric.

Yup, brand new electric locomotives to be provided by the OnCorr consortium. Alstom specifically will be providing them.

 

[Metroscapes]

And is there any modification necessary to the coaches? I've always wondered if there was opportunity to make consist sets (4-6, whatever) that were articulated. Kind of like they make those flatbeds for seacans. Or are the coaches too heavy for a single bogie?

 

[cplchanb]

And is there any modification necessary to the coaches? I've always wondered if there was opportunity to make consist sets (4-6, whatever) that were articulated. Kind of like they make those flatbeds for seacans. Or are the coaches too heavy for a single bogie?

That's a fundamental redesign and completely unnecessary. The only thing the coaches need are modifications to the door to be flush with the new platform height

 

[RU479]

I’m pretty sure they are planning on buying new electric locos. I have not heard any plans to convert existing locos to electric.

What I do expect however is the retirement of around half of the current diesel stock. I’m guessing the F59PHs, and the early orders of MP40PHs get withdrawn. While the later MP40s, MP54s, and the diesels go will acquire in 2024-2025 will remain.

 

[Krypto98]

And is there any modification necessary to the coaches? I've always wondered if there was opportunity to make consist sets (4-6, whatever) that were articulated. Kind of like they make those flatbeds for seacans. Or are the coaches too heavy for a single bogie?

Actually an empty bilevel passenger coach is about the same weight as an empty well. But a redesign to that would be, unnecessary and basically pointless.

 

[crs1026]

And is there any modification necessary to the coaches? I've always wondered if there was opportunity to make consist sets (4-6, whatever) that were articulated. Kind of like they make those flatbeds for seacans. Or are the coaches too heavy for a single bogie?

There are certainly articulated passenger car designs that share an end bogie between cars. But GO bilevel model isn't one of those. Modifying them to accompish this is a very big change, and I don't see a good reason for doing so.

Even "pairing" them by replacing one end coupler with a solid drawbar would not provide much value .

If it ain't broke....

- Paul

 

[Metroscapes]

Fair 'nuff!

 

[rbt]

That's a fundamental redesign and completely unnecessary. The only thing the coaches need are modifications to the door to be flush with the new platform height

Is that easy for AODA compliance across the entire train? IIRC the gap and height difference are quite tight for compliance.

That is, do they need to install the height adjusting mechanisms that retain a specific height in different loading conditions (empty vs crush) like on TTC trains; or is it as simple as raising the platform and removing the exterior step on the train?

Perhaps they go the easy way and continue to have staff deploy a bridge for those who can't manage a gap or small height differential?

 

[cplchanb]

Is that easy for AODA compliance across the entire train? IIRC the gap and height difference are quite tight for compliance.

That is, do they need to install the height adjusting mechanisms that retain a specific height in different loading conditions (empty vs crush) like on TTC trains; or is it as simple as raising the platform and removing the exterior step on the train?

Perhaps they go the easy way and continue to have staff deploy a bridge for those who can't manage a gap or small height differential?

I wonder if it's as fundamentally simple as to find a way to install a structure to cover the step up. I guess that's provided they close the gap in when they raise all the platforms. It would be meaningless to raise the height if they leave the same gap as now

 

[WB62]

I am 100% sure they will be doing what FrontRunner in Utah does, and they have full level boarding with Bi-Level equipment

 

[ssiguy2]

I just assumed they were going to convert the existing locos over to electric and buy new electric ones as demand requires.

BTW...........2028 seems late as I thought the RER electrification system was suppose to be up and running by 2026?

 

[generalcanada]

I just assumed they were going to convert the existing locos over to electric and buy new electric ones as demand requires.

BTW...........2028 seems late as I thought the RER electrification system was suppose to be up and running by 2026?

Theres a misunderstanding here.

Metrolinx never said it would be fully running by 2026.

At most they said "incremental service increases by 2026"

its more realistic to be expect electrification wires and locos to be running on them until past 2030.

GO Expansion deal means faster, greener, GO Train service

GO Expansion project update

www.metrolinx.com

Metrolinx expects some construction to start in 2023, and there will be incremental improvements to service as work phases unlock opportunities to add service starting in approximately 2025-2026.