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Is there also a tentative date to which they will wye an F59? Because I know GO is not eager to have F59s operate by themselves on a 10 car train.
 
Crews really don’t know what will happen to the consists though.
But the point of having two locomotives on the London train was so that if there is a problem with one unit it can limp home. Otherwise it's going to take 6 hours to get there and tow it home.
 
But the point of having two locomotives on the London train was so that if there is a problem with one unit it can limp home. Otherwise it's going to take 6 hours to get there and tow it home.

That may have been a concern originally, or particularly in winter weather, but ML seems to be having no problem with the idea now.

With the speed limits so low west of Kitchener, it may be moot. A single F59 can most certainly haul a full train at 30 mph.

- Paul
 
That may have been a concern originally, or particularly in winter weather, but ML seems to be having no problem with the idea now.

With the speed limits so low west of Kitchener, it may be moot. A single F59 can most certainly haul a full train at 30 mph.

- Paul
What about the faster sections between kitchener and Toronto?

I thought it was an issue of reliability rather than schedule.
 
What about the faster sections between kitchener and Toronto?

I thought it was an issue of reliability rather than schedule.

A single F59 is not "unreliable". It simply lacks a safety margin. (Like driving your car without a spare tire)

GO ran its entire fleet with single F59's for many years until the MP40's were ordered. Maybe not optimally with longer trains.... but it worked well enough.

We may see dual F59's return in some form, but for the moment..... good is apparently good enough.

- Paul
 
So that raises the question, is it possible the solo 10 car F59 consist could go on non London bound trains?

There was a solo F59 consist that was on the Kitchener line this weekend, not on a London train but rather the Mt Pleasant - Union and back off peak trains.
 
But the point of having two locomotives on the London train was so that if there is a problem with one unit it can limp home. Otherwise it's going to take 6 hours to get there and tow it home.
I don’t really know why you’re responding to me? I know why they use 2 locomotives.
I’m just telling someone else that crews don’t know what their consist will look like until they get there, so it’s unlikely that whoever he spoke to knows if they’re flipping a locomotive or not.
 
GO is really cheaping out on these new Trains smh

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