[Sauga89]

I have been tempted to sneak past the anti trespass mat and surrepetitiously plant some ivy shoots.
The beauty of British Rail fencing, other than being a stockpile of metal that could provide for decades of steelmaking, is that most is covered with a century of vegetation.
Surely ML could do more planting to accelerate coverings on all those walls.

- Paul

Isn't ivy an invasive species? I imagine that would be an issue for Metrolinx. I'm not a horticulturalist though, so maybe there are native ivy-like species which could substitute for ivy.

 

[nfitz]

Isn't ivy an invasive species? I imagine that would be an issue for Metrolinx. I'm not a horticulturalist though, so maybe there are native ivy-like species which could substitute for ivy.

Well English Ivy is invasive. There's certainly North American species, such as Virginia creeper. I'm not sure which ones are native to Ontario - and it's increasingly Carolinean forests.

 

[smallspy]

If you ignore the noise issue, and think strictly of security a non-scalable, difficulty to cut fence would likely make the most sense. Think faux Cast-Iron, Probably 10ft tall.

Current fencing spec is to not use chain link, but rather a tighter steel mesh that is much more cut-resistant and is very difficult to climb. It gets installed in panels rather than rolls. I'm sure that there's a trade name for it, but I don't know what it is.

Dan

 

[Northern Light]

Current fencing spec is to not use chain link, but rather a tighter steel mesh that is much more cut-resistant and is very difficult to climb. It gets installed in panels rather than rolls. I'm sure that there's a trade name for it, but I don't know what it is.

Dan

Probably welded wire panels.

Is this what you were thinking of:

Welded Wire Fence Panels - Fence Panels

Welded Wire Fence Panels Toronto | Fence Supplier. We manufacture and install. For more information on our fence panels call us today 905-847-1160.

fencepanels.ca

 

[smallspy]

Probably welded wire panels.

Is this what you were thinking of:

Welded Wire Fence Panels - Fence Panels

Welded Wire Fence Panels Toronto | Fence Supplier. We manufacture and install. For more information on our fence panels call us today 905-847-1160.

fencepanels.ca

This is the stuff, yes.

Dan

 

[bearcat]

This is the stuff, yes.

Dan

Is the fencing along the Lower Don River trail an example of this in recent use?

it looks pretty nice imho

 

[Northern Light]

Is the fencing along the Lower Don River trail an example of this in recent use?

View attachment 655093

Yes.

 

[sixrings]

I'll play Devil's Advocate (I also think reaper is being a little misleading as you allude to by citing C-train and ETS, both of which use old rail lines for very discrete right-of-ways that Toronto doesn't have) and say that the remedy to TTC's streetcar problems have been known about forever, Toronto just doesn't want to nut up and fix them: much wider stop spacing so trams can get up to speed, stronger signal priority, institutional pushback against train-delaying customer service decisions (slow door closing drama), and modern switches that don't require crawling through an intersection. Toronto should do this at the bare minimum before we start worrying more about grade separation.

If I was Olivia Chow, I would simply order the TTC to close half of King St's tram stops tomorrow. People will whine and complain about accessibility, as if a streetcar requiring you to dart across a lane of active traffic is some kind of wheelchair utopia, and the city will adapt. It's crazy that the city is desperately trying all kinds of schemes to speed up King St and ignoring the elephants in the room.

Correct wider stop spacing. In its own lane. And transit priority lights are the solution given what we are working with.

I guess @reaperexpress went on vacation so he cannot answer my question despite being so active yesterday. Where exactly are these lrt lines supposed to be built that he’s suggesting?

 

[reaperexpress]

I guess @reaperexpress went on vacation so he cannot answer my question despite being so active yesterday. Where exactly are these lrt lines supposed to be built that he’s suggesting?

What is your problem? I answered you in the TTC Streetcar thread because you were talking about streetcars. This is the GO Construction thread. I quoted your post so you should have gotten a notification.

 

[guavadelic]

When I have queried why certain projects stopped moving, the answer was sometimes “(shrug) Budget got cut”
I will admit, it’s not always clear whether that means ML moved the money, or the province took it away or redirected. But either way, it creates a need to return to the well for new money before work can resume.
I am retaining my suspicion that the money is being doled out much more sparingly than the commitment to GO Expansion as an all-in package might imply.
We spectators should pay far closer attention to whether funding has actually been released for each sub-project we are waiting for.


- Paul

Ford government's pet project seems to be the Ontario Line. I wonder if the balooning costs of that project is sucking the funding away from everything else.

I am under the impression that the Province/Metrolinx is dragging their feet on the prep works forever to avoid the actual electrification...

It's possible Metrolinx saw the Fed's announce HSR and decided to punt prep works for electrification until Feds pony up funding for upgrades since they'll need to share some of the corridor coming into Union for that project.

 

[crs1026]

Ford government's pet project seems to be the Ontario Line. I wonder if the balooning costs of that project is sucking the funding away from everything else

Agree. It's not realistic to think that Ontario handed ML an $11B cheque and said, Please build this thing asap. There will be annual and possibly quarterly cash flows and releases from Ontario.... and possibly the Finance folks are not forthcoming with money at times even if the overall project has been committed. It's quite plausible that shovel-ready work might be waiting for money to be released. That's a fiscal reality for any infrastructure initiative, but it conflicts with the PR narrative that work is going on everywhere.

I have tried to watch the ML Board presentations to figure out where money is actually flowing, but it's pretty hard to tell from the high level figures that are reported. Or where money may have moved around. Lets's see what gets said next month.

I will admit that when I watch the ML field forces from the GO train, the number of workers on every little job seems excessive. Sure would like to know how ML fares with "wrench time" and overall labour productivity.

It's possible Metrolinx saw the Fed's announce HSR and decided to punt prep works for electrification until Feds pony up funding for upgrades since they'll need to share some of the corridor coming into Union for that project.

I have been thinking this for a long time. Possibly more being said quietly behind the scenes.....Ottawa has committed money to fund GO in the past, and one wonders if there were quiet agreements that ML would accommodate VIA as a quid pro quo for federal support. Certainly I would have thought that the likes of Verster and Ford would have been aggressive in shaking VIA down for a share of GO Expansion.... I would not expect them to size GO lines for GO alone, only to have VIA sit silent and then sneak in their expectations afterwards. It's entirely reasonable for ML to ask VIA to pay their share when capacity is being added.... or accept the outcome if they failed to ante up and no capacity is installed for VIA's interests.

- Paul

 

[sixrings]

What is your problem? I answered you in the TTC Streetcar thread because you were talking about streetcars. This is the GO Construction thread. I quoted your post so you should have gotten a notification.

This is the thread in which we were having the conversation. How would I even know to look there.

 

[urbancog]

I would not expect them to size GO lines for GO alone, only to have VIA sit silent and then sneak in their expectations afterwards

I agree that planning to have electrical capacity to match demand as service increases is critical.

Here's an example of poor planning (well poor funding really) in the UK where bi-mode trains between Newcastle and Edinburgh in the East Coast Main Line have to operate in diesel mode, due to lack of electrical capacity, instead of less polluting OH electric mode.

 

[Yeltsa Kcir]

Ford government's pet project seems to be the Ontario Line. I wonder if the balooning costs of that project is sucking the funding away from everything else.

This is why I suspect the only thing of substance being done at a reasonable pace for GO expansion right now is the bridge/corridor work it happens to share with the Ontario line on LE.

 

[Yeltsa Kcir]

Junction residents stage parade calling on Metrolinx to deliver years-delayed Davenport Greenway

Metrolinx says preliminary work to deliver the Davenport Diamond Greenway project will 'start in the next few weeks'

www.torontotoday.ca

Seen on reddit. There really needs to be a federal inquiry into what the hell is going on over at Metrolinx. It's just beyond unacceptable at this point and I'm tired of people giving this corruption a pass.