[PShells]

ST trains and LSE share the corridor.

I’m aware of that. My question is if we’re closing both to get something done on LSE does Metrolinx aim to take advantage of both closures to get work done on ST…or is it a “wasted opportunity” due to various constraints (money, labour)?

 

[crs1026]

This may be too much inside baseball for a public message board to address, but there’s been many instances where two lines have a weekend closure for what appears to be a single project on one of the lines. Both lines get closed to eliminate all train traffic so the weekend project can be completed.

Does Metrolinx typically line up maintenance or other project work for the “second” line closure? I’ve learned through this forum that these weekend closures can be scheduled a year or more in advance. I hope they’re used to the fullest, but I am cognizant of financial budget constraints (or even the availability of work crews).

Most certainly, they bundle multiple sub-projects throughout the affected territory so many things are done in parallel, minimising down time for the train operations.

The only problem is that this adds complexity in planning and coordinating all of this work, which may require overlapping track protection, conflicting movement of equipment and material, and multiple subcontractors and multiple work plans to be vetted and approved. ML is far from perfect at juggling all of this, and there are certainly cases where work falls off the schedule due to preparations being incomplete, or execution being a fail. But certainly, as a strategy, they try to work this way.

- Paul

 

[ComptoirGeneral]

Does anybody know:
- will the current-day track work at Broadview & Queen add anything in anticipation of southbound service?
- when the extension is built south of Eastern Ave, will it have tracks or be like QQE in the Portlands (space reserved but no tracks)?

I wouldn't be surprised if no provisions is being made for eventual southbound service. If there's one thing we love to do in this city it's complete projects piecemeal

 

[reaperexpress]

Most certainly, they bundle multiple sub-projects throughout the affected territory so many things are done in parallel, minimising down time for the train operations.

The only problem is that this adds complexity in planning and coordinating all of this work, which may require overlapping track protection, conflicting movement of equipment and material, and multiple subcontractors and multiple work plans to be vetted and approved. ML is far from perfect at juggling all of this, and there are certainly cases where work falls off the schedule due to preparations being incomplete, or execution being a fail. But certainly, as a strategy, they try to work this way.

- Paul

To add onto this point, since they do schedule many projects along the line to take advantage of the same closures, they need to schedule the closures far in advance and if a closure date gets changed or cancelled, it can add a huge amount of delay and cost to the projects that were planning to use it.

I hope that Metrolinx provides cost and delay estimates to politicians when they ask for closures to be cancelled or rescheduled like what happened this past weekend.