[goodcitywhenfinished]

So a few things from this article - https://www.cp24.com/local/toronto/...ate-january-chow-says-no-opening-before-then/

Based on the language by Chow, states that Line 6 may not open until sometime in February, but with TSP active as well. I say sometime in February/March because her wording indicates they aren't expecting any updates until late January.

And tangentially related

- The motion for TSP implementation has been passed by Council / Mayor Chow
- Left turn advances would be heavily scrutinized (must be from the video of vehicles turning left while the LRV was sitting and waiting) and that the signal priority would trigger on approach of a LRV to the intersection so it is not sitting and waiting.
- Brad Bradford said Chow was asleep at the switch, wants to create a motion stating that people will get their money back if they face a delay of 15 minutes or more

If we are waiting for TSP to be activated on Line 5 before launching then that probably means the entire testing regime has to be at least somewhat redone no? That is such a huge change to the operational procedures of the line that I won’t be surprised if they decide to do a whole new RSD period

 

[JJTheJetPln]

When is the election and who's running against Chow?

No idea, and probably half the people on the UrbanToronto forum.

If we are waiting for TSP to be activated on Line 5 before launching then that probably means the entire testing regime has to be at least somewhat redone no? That is such a huge change to the operational procedures of the line that I won’t be surprised if they decide to do a whole new RSD period

I said the same thing too. It's clear that Line 5 really was a crapshoot. I keep crossing my fingers and hoping that ML would learn from the defects of other lines, but it's clear that even those defects or operating procedures are of no use.

 

[sixrings]

When is the election and who's running against Chow?

Chow vs smart track

 

[Bojaxs]

4 months to study speeding up the line. Good lord!

It could be late into 2026 before we see this line get sped up. Will they maintain the shuttle buses until then?

 

[Bordercollie]

Chow vs smart track

There is a rumour that John Tory's son will run in the next election.

 

[McGillicuddy]

There is a rumour that John Tory's son will run in the next election.

The fact that you're introducing him as John Tory's nameless son feels like an omen.

 

[Bordercollie]

His name is also John Tory. (JR)

 

[txlseries4]

There is a rumour that John Tory's son will run in the next election.

Federal election

John Tory Jr., son of former Toronto mayor John Tory, wants to run for the federal Liberals

In an email Wednesday, Tory Jr. confirmed he is having "exploratory" discussions, after several sources told the Star he is considering trying to run for the federal Liberals.

www.thestar.com

 

[Bordercollie]

He needs a seat first. It also says he MAY run

 

[txlseries4]

He needs a seat first. It also says he MAY run

Ya, that's obviously how federal elections work lol. Feel like I'm going crazy trying to parse your comments. You replied to "chow vs smart track" and said there's a rumour John Tory Jr might run next election -- as in the city election. But the only rumour out there published is about him running federally. Is there also a rumour that he'd run for mayor? Source?

 

[Midtown Urbanist]

What's rough about Sunnybrook Park is that it introduced an at-grade intersection between Laird and Don Mills. Metrolinx had proposed to bypass the intersection south of Eglinton and maintain fully grade separated services to Don Mills by deleting the stop, allowing the underground frequencies and service reliability to extend to what is one of the most important stations on the line and the future transfer point to the Ontario Line.

Instead that service was cut back to Laird to maintain a transit stop on a low-ridership, low-priority location with little in the way of density or destinations in walking distance. It's like 2 condo complexes, a park, and a car dealership.

The biggest offender on Eglinton is Hakimi Lebovic and needs to get deleted.

If only we could have had a south side alignment...

 

[Obsidian]

Listening to the City Hall session - someone made a great point. That when the LRT was pitched it was supposed to be 33-34 minutes and their decision was based on that estimation. In retrospect, would the city have bought into the Finch LRT at current speed? Not sure...

I got to say that it's kind of rich that some are complaining about the number of stops slowing down the line when they fought to have the Sunnybrook stop added on line 5

If it was pitched at current speeds, 15 to 30 minutes slower than the buses it replace, it would have never been approved as a transit project anywhere.
even 33 minutes is the same speed as the bus.

 

[Obsidian]

No idea, and probably half the people on the UrbanToronto forum.


I said the same thing too. It's clear that Line 5 really was a crapshoot. I keep crossing my fingers and hoping that ML would learn from the defects of other lines, but it's clear that even those defects or operating procedures are of no use.

Well Line 5 is their first line, i would say the learning are already seen on the Ontario Line construction.

namelly building the stations first since they take the longest time than after the TBM have gone through like on Line 5.
This change alone will save 2 years of construction

 

[Obsidian]

4 months to study speeding up the line. Good lord!

It could be late into 2026 before we see this line get sped up. Will they maintain the shuttle buses until then?

why the hell are they doing a study???
Just make the change then study it.

Maybe the city should have used all that time they were bitching at Metrolinx about an opening date they should have been studying TSP so that it would be implemented while test started.

 

[urbanclient]

If it was pitched at current speeds, 15 to 30 minutes slower than the buses it replace, it would have never been approved as a transit project anywhere.

Metrolinx: Hey everyone, let's pay $2.5 billion along with another $1 billion for maintenance over 30 years, so we can get a glorified bus that rides the rails. That's right! Slower than the 36 bus. Of course! We'll build a massive 2000 square foot two storey ceiling station entrance at Finch West; Also, we'll build an overly long descent into a new concourse that is inexplicably 2 stories below the Line 6 platform level, forcing us to build another flight of escalators up instead of building the concourse at the same level. At Metrolinx, we love burning money.

The city council: Ok as long as we don't pay for any of it.