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jmi22 said:
For an region and municipality taking their first swing at a rail transit project really ever, the way it turned out is miraculous.

Not trying to derail the thread, but does anyone have a link to a thread discussing Phase 2 of ION? Very curious about the choice to bank so far around Preston.
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If you're wondering why Stage 2 of the ION avoids Preston, NIMBYs caused that to happen. The people of Preston don't want any change and the Region doesn't wait around for this nonsense, so they went with Hespeler Rd instead.

And honestly Hespeler Rd is the better route. Preston is too small with limited development potential. Hespeler Rd is a stroad surrounded by retail plazas just waiting for redevelopment. Leaving Preston alone (to remain in my opinion a bit of a dump) makes them happy so be it.

Cambridge is the odd-one out in the Region, they operate like Toronto, NIMBY hellscape.
 
afransen said:
A council item to ask staff to produce the report council asked for a year ago?

Council wastes so much time demanding reports from staff, it's just a stalling tactic and a waste of staff time. How about instructing staff to implement strong signal priority and report back on the impact.
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Supposedly they're not going direct staff to study the issue but implement it instead:
https://www.reddit.com/r/toronto/comments/1pii3ay/i_hear_you_active_transit_signal_priority_is
 
robmausser said:
They want these LRTs to operate and look and feel as little like a streetcar and as much like a subway as possible. Its all about optics. Thats why they painted them grey (no seriously, to match the subway trains stainless steel look. No, I'm serious this is not an opinion, Metrolinx stated this for real. Like its going to fool anyone)

Optics asside, you are right, its better. But everything in politics is about optics.

Ironically, you know what WOULD make them seem more like a subway? Transit priority and driving them faster than 30kmh 👀
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Metros in other places (Paris, Amsterdam, etc.) have doors actuated by buttons.
 
Admiral Beez said:
The speed limit along the Finch LRT corridor is between 40-60 kph. This is the speed we should be doing between stops. Anything slower is unacceptable.
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I would argue speed limits for LRVs could be, say, 10kph higher than that for regular traffic This may require legislative changes -- but perhaps yet another argument for proper grade separation to escape the tyranny of the HTA. A higher limit for rail transit vehicles makes some sense given that: speed limits are set with the expectation that many drivers will exceed them, at least somewhat (85th percentile etc.), LRVs are on rails with a predictable path, and they are operated by professional drivers.
 
afransen said:
I would argue speed limits for LRVs could be, say, 10kph higher than that for regular traffic This may require legislative changes -- but perhaps yet another argument for proper grade separation to escape the tyranny of the HTA. A higher limit for rail transit vehicles makes some sense given that: speed limits are set with the expectation that many drivers will exceed them, at least somewhat (85th percentile etc.), LRVs are on rails with a predictable path, and they are operated by professional drivers.
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Someone please confirm this but isn't the speed limit for the line 6 vehicles 60km/h and 50km/h for the line 5 vehicles themselves.
 
Obsidian said:
Someone please confirm this but isn't the speed limit for the line 6 vehicles 60km/h and 50km/h for the line 5 vehicles themselves.
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The speed limit is 60km/h on both lines, as set by council:

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https://secure.toronto.ca/council/agenda-item.do?item=2021.IE23.17

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https://secure.toronto.ca/council/agenda-item.do?item=2021.IE20.15


Not sure about the vehicle top speed.
 
Jac. said:
They really should look into revamping the map in the near future because trying to look at this from the perspective of a newcomer, this is very visually overwhelming and messy.
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Nothing more of a Welcome to Toronto than this...
 
Jac. said:
They really should look into revamping the map in the near future because trying to look at this from the perspective of a newcomer, this is very visually overwhelming and messy.
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Likely it will get to a point where it is just the line map of the train you are on, like the ones we see on Line 6 trains. And then, a regional diagram (Metrolinx's is actually very good) could be posted somewhere else along the train.
 
Kyle Campbell said:
I meant on opening day. Hence the "disappointment came later" thing. Here they started with the disappointment at hour 1.

With Ottawa the problems built over time, and people got more and more disillusioned with the line to the point they lost all hope, and even though it's "reliable" now the hope is gone

As a person that commutes on OTrain line 1 and 2 a few times a week, I'm well aware of what's happening with it
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So true. The trains on both lines are still too slow and station dwell times are too long.

If trip times are too long, it wears on passengers over time. In Ottawa, I still marvel about how slow trains are near Hurdman.

With common trains, it would be interesting to compare Ottawa Line 1 with Finch Line 6.
 
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