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Without getting overly excited; I believe Finch LRT is a useful line to build.

1. The right-of-way will speed up the travel during the peak periods, when the street is congested. And, will hopefully make the headways more even.

2. The capacity limit is higher than what can be achieved with buses (even if buses are given dedicated lanes, like YRT's VIVA); the fixed wheel advantage enables longer vehicles.

3. The cost is high, but that reflects the general inflation of construction costs. Surface light rail is still cheaper than subways. Once we get the final per-km costs of the OL, SSE, Yonge North subways, they will end up being 3-5 times greater than the per-km cost of Finch LRT.

However, I don't really like it when Finch LRT is marketed as "rapid transit"; that's misleading, and could lead to negative public sentiments once the actual travel times are known from the line's operation. I would stick to "improved, high-capacity local transit" instead of "rapid".

Or, if anyone insists on calling Finch LRT "rapid transit", then we should call TTC's express buses "rapid transit" as well, since they operate at a similar speed.
 
robmausser said:
The density of Finch really doesn't warrant anything better, sorry. Subways, subways, subways is over with the death of Rob Ford. It turned out he had enough Subway to eat at home anyways.

The public there will absolutely be glad to have a higher capacity transit system than the currently always overfull buses.

Also, if we wanted, an LRT could never ever wait for a red light. It's literally as easy as reprogramming the transit priority system. Everything is ready to go. The only thing stopping it are the boomers at city hall that run Toronto Transportation.
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This is the same city that reduced the speeds on basically all roads and decided not to re-time the lights. Effectively training people to drive 20 over or suffer a 2 min wait at every intersection!
 
nfitz said:
I hate to say something positive about Doug Ford, but he's initiated more subway than I ever expected to see built in my lifetime.
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Projects are moving along and we see a lot of progress with his government. Column supports are going up along Eg West on the elevated section. The OL is showing significant progress. It is a real changer than the previous governments. He also showed that you don't need to study something for 2 decades to build a line. Yet this city is still studying (I mean stalling) on the Eglinton East LRT.
 
Steve X said:
Projects are moving along and we see a lot of progress with his government. Column supports are going up along Eg West on the elevated section. The OL is showing significant progress. It is a real changer than the previous governments. He also showed that you don't need to study something for 2 decades to build a line. Yet this city is still studying (I mean stalling) on the Eglinton East LRT.
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Hamilton LRT would like to object lol.
 
Has he approved any *transit* project that hasn't already been studied for ages? Maybe SSE was the biggest shake up but that entire project was a failure at multiple levels.
 
BrenWilson said:
Has he approved any *transit* project that hasn't already been studied for ages? Maybe SSE was the biggest shake up but that entire project was a failure at multiple levels.
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The alignment and station locations for that follow the long-existing TTC plans - which was already approved, financed, and close to being tendered when the province took over and delayed the project from the planned 2027 opening date.

I think the Downtown Relief line is the biggest tweak, with the alignment changes, and the technology change and extension east of University (and the delay in the 2029 opening date). Part of the justification of this, is Ford's promise that with the changes, it would open in 2027.
 
Rainforest said:
Without getting overly excited; I believe Finch LRT is a useful line to build.

1. The right-of-way will speed up the travel during the peak periods, when the street is congested. And, will hopefully make the headways more even.

2. The capacity limit is higher than what can be achieved with buses (even if buses are given dedicated lanes, like YRT's VIVA); the fixed wheel advantage enables longer vehicles.

3. The cost is high, but that reflects the general inflation of construction costs. Surface light rail is still cheaper than subways. Once we get the final per-km costs of the OL, SSE, Yonge North subways, they will end up being 3-5 times greater than the per-km cost of Finch LRT.

However, I don't really like it when Finch LRT is marketed as "rapid transit"; that's misleading, and could lead to negative public sentiments once the actual travel times are known from the line's operation. I would stick to "improved, high-capacity local transit" instead of "rapid".

Or, if anyone insists on calling Finch LRT "rapid transit", then we should call TTC's express buses "rapid transit" as well, since they operate at a similar speed.
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100%.

I absolutely hate the naming convention used here.

It shouldn't be called Line 6. It should be called T1 or L1, which is common elsewhere. Then the other ROW streetcar lines could be grouped together with it. The Finch LRT is more similar to 512 than Line 1.
 
Steve X said:
He also showed that you don't need to study something for 2 decades to build a line. Yet this city is still studying (I mean stalling) on the Eglinton East LRT.
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The Sheppard study has been moving at quite the snail pace.
 
smallspy said:
You're right. All you need is some hired hack to show you something shiny and new, and he'll approve it. All of the old studies be damned.

Dan
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If the City had decided to build a subway from Eglinton to downtown without interconnecting with Line 2/Greenwood, as DRL was supposed to, they would have been crucified on here for failure to link up the lines and maximise economies in work vehicles, permit branching of Line 2 etc.

More so if they used standard gauge OHLE rolling stock - SRT all over again, why wouldn't we use the Thunder Bay subway manufacturing line and 3rd rail so that economies in parts and training could accrue even if the trains couldn't move between the lines.

Plenty would have been said about the dipsy doodle to Unilever and back up to Queen (handout to property developers), and the diagonal tunnel across downtown blocks deemed an attempt to collapse buildings.

Only Nixon could go to China, or something.
 
Sept 26
Waste my time driving over to Finch today to do some videos shooting. Finch a single lane in both direction between Martin Gove to Albion as curb are being rebuilding at each catch basin with cycling close east of hwy 27.

No clue what scheduleing the Lrv;s are supoosed to be at between cars, but it was 2-18 minutes withj all different intervals, If they are supposed to run at 60km why were they getting past by buses??/

Where I wanted to shot video from was the walkway over Finich and it is wrap and close to the public. Don't know if it is close or work being done for the ramps.

Seeing there no real in service testing after an hour, call it a day and went to shot something else. Never made it to the 400 area and may do that on Monday as I head out of town
 
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