Gronk! said:
The South Edmonton Hospital is not cancelled AFAIK, and the northside already has the Royal Alex, not to mention the Sturgeon Hospital in St Albert. I think Caterina is yanking your chain.

A link to Caterina's FB post would be nice.
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The Northside has Royal Alex, the busiest and oldest hospital in the province. One hospital for half the city.

The south side has Grey Nuns, Miseracordia, U of A and Stollery, not to mention the Leduc Community hospital in Leduc. The fact that the new hospital was set for the southside was a political gambit based on the competitiveness of the South West ridings. Caterina is speaking beyond the scope of the post he is running for, but he ain't wrong about the desperate need for a hospital in North Edmonton.
 
The North Side also has the Northeast Community Health Centre. I think that, at the very least, South Edmonton could benefit from a similar facility at the site of the proposed hospital, as a first stage. In the NW, I wonder if Woodcroft could be expanded.
 
SarcasticMarmot said:
The Northside has Royal Alex, the busiest and oldest hospital in the province. One hospital for half the city.

The south side has Grey Nuns, Miseracordia, U of A and Stollery, not to mention the Leduc Community hospital in Leduc. The fact that the new hospital was set for the southside was a political gambit based on the competitiveness of the South West ridings. Caterina is speaking beyond the scope of the post he is running for, but he ain't wrong about the desperate need for a hospital in North Edmonton.
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Correction: The Misericordia is in the west end, almost across 170 St from WEM. So it hardly services the southside nor the northside.
 
Gronk! said:
Correction: The Misericordia is in the west end, almost across 170 St from WEM. So it hardly services the southside nor the northside.
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Misericordia's quick access via the whitemud means its serves a large chunk of the SW, and will continue to do so even when/if the new south hospital is built.

I also want to mention that the Royal Alex needing replacement/rehab was identified as a core need back in Redford's time and Prentice even prioritized funding it while cutting other things. It was one of the first things cut by Notley in favor of redirecting the money to the potential South Hospital for political reasons.

Edmonton in the 21st century has a long history of new hospitals being a political football, and nothing to show for it. At this point we realistically could use a couple more. The fact that the last one was built when our population was about half what it is now is shameful.
 
We may never see another hospital built here in the next 10 years. Grey Nus will get some upgrades when out-patients moves to the new Covenant wellness centre in September but not much else. Covenant will also build a new wellness centre at the Miz and at least 3 other locations.

We see the UCP keep saying money for planning but building may never come. Thats next elections' sparkly bits.
 
Airboy said:
We may never see another hospital built here in the next 10 years. Grey Nus will get some upgrades when out-patients moves to the new Covenant wellness centre in September but not much else. Covenant will also build a new wellness centre at the Miz and at least 3 other locations.

We see the UCP keep saying money for planning but building may never come. Thats next elections' sparkly bits.
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There is no money committed for construction yet and probably will not be for years, if ever.

I suspect their well paid communications people will still be talking about rebuilding the two hospitals in the next election. It is rather hard to build anything without the funds committed to do so.
 
If we’re calling Leduc a southside hospital, are we going to mention Sturgeon in St. Albert? Tons of my friends on the west end have had their babies there. It serves the West and North quite a bit.

SW has grown faster than any quadrant in the last 20 years. Makes sense to add one down there.

Also, UofA/Stollery is super central. It and kingsway both somewhat mirror. Griesbach and Londonderry to Stollery are faster than many new SW communities….

Misecordia from castledowns is 23mins. It’s also 23mins from Rutherford in the SW. Very weird to frame as a south side hospital. It’s clearly west, but pretty central for NW and SW.

I think Caterina and some people on here need to spend some time on google maps. The SW is 100% more needed than a north side hospital.
 
Leduc was mentioned specifically in response to the St. Albert hospital being listed as a north side hospital for Edmonton. I don't dispute that the SW is growing fast, but that doesn't change the fact there is not a single hospital north of 112 ave in Edmonton. I'm afraid you're the one who needs to look at Google Maps. There are 3 hospitals south of Jasper Ave, there is only 1 north, and it is barely north.

Rutherford is an odd choice to prove that Misericordia doesn't count as a southside hospital. Rutherford is closer to Grey Nuns which is 15 minutes away. Proof of the fact that Misericordia serves the south side is that it is only 10 minutes away from Terwilliger.

The best example of this is how many hospitals you have to choose from to have a bay from on the south side, on the north side it's either Royal Alex or leave the city. I beg you, spend some time at the Royal Alex to see how over run our only hospital is on the northside!
 
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David A said:
There is no money committed for construction yet and probably will not be for years, if ever.
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I'm skeptical that they'll put money toward construction, but just to be clear it's a very common practice to set aside planning funds first, and construction funds once a lot of the planning/design is complete. It helps with cost certainty so that there's less risk of major cost escalations.
 
CplKlinger said:
I'm skeptical that they'll put money toward construction, but just to be clear it's a very common practice to set aside planning funds first, and construction funds once a lot of the planning/design is complete. It helps with cost certainty so that there's less risk of major cost escalations.
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I understand and I might be a bit generous if they hadn't put out communications about these projects making it sound as if they are going ahead when in fact $NIL has been committed yet for any construction costs.
 
SarcasticMarmot said:
Leduc was mentioned specifically in response to the St. Albert hospital being listed as a north side hospital for Edmonton. I don't dispute that the SW is growing fast, but that doesn't change the fact there is not a single hospital north of 112 ave in Edmonton. I'm afraid you're the one who needs to look at Google Maps. There are 3 hospitals south of Jasper Ave, there is only 1 north, and it is barely north.

Rutherford is an odd choice to prove that Misericordia doesn't count as a southside hospital. Rutherford is closer to Grey Nuns which is 15 minutes away. Proof of the fact that Misericordia serves the south side is that it is only 10 minutes away from Terwilliger.

The best example of this is how many hospitals you have to choose from to have a bay from on the south side, on the north side it's either Royal Alex or leave the city. I beg you, spend some time at the Royal Alex to see how over run our only hospital is on the northside!
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what’s your definition of north side? 112ave? North of the river?

Our city isn’t a perfect circle. It’s more heavily weighted both to the south and west. And much of our newer, denser suburbs are in the west and south, so Hospital demand is higher.

Rutherford is a good measure cause it’s SW. and would be served by the new hospital. The grey nuns can’t support all of millwoods as well as all of the neighbourhoods south of the henday. Pretty sure that population is larger than any measure of “north side” Edmonton, not including future growth of those suburbs southward.

St Albert is a north side hospital for Edmonton Id argue. Griesbach to sturgeon is 13 minutes. From a provincial/healthcare perspective, the arbitrary COE vs St. Albert boundary doesn’t exist.

And as someone who spent over 3 months in hospitals this year with a preemie baby, another kid having multiple surgeries, and a personal injury myself, not sure how that helps determine where hospitals should be placed haha. What I do know from both deliveries being at the alex is that it’s got a very nice delivery ward that a lot of money was recently invested in.

SW needs the next hospital more than any locations for a north side one imo. Population density and growth is just significantly more.
 
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