archited
Senior Member
What ye sow ye shall reap... he couldn't resist staying out of it so we call him what he has proven himself to be.
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Gronk!
Senior Member
@thommyjo is correct, actually. Besides the Aldritt Tower, there's also been the Edmontonian and God knows what else has also been championed on this forum for naught.
Gene Dub hasn't done himself any favors with the long-abandoned Bellamy Tower and his decades-long project with the Camsell.
I want the Rossdale Centre to go ahead (NIMBYs be damned), but if Dub's track record is any indication, we'll be waiting for a long long time until shovels hit the ground.
Seamusmuldrew
Active Member
Went to the open house for this on Wednesday and while the concerns were expected, I’d like to point out some funny ones:
“Too Tall”
View from site:
“Poor vehicle access”
Surrounding road network:
“Where will everyone park???”
Plans at the open house showing parkades under all 3 buildings:
“Stop destroying River Valley Parkland”
This argument was understandable to someone without much context, but that area has never been parkland, seeing that the brewery has only stood alone for a few decades:
1988
2002
“Too Tall”
View from site:
“Poor vehicle access”
Surrounding road network:
“Where will everyone park???”
Plans at the open house showing parkades under all 3 buildings:
“Stop destroying River Valley Parkland”
This argument was understandable to someone without much context, but that area has never been parkland, seeing that the brewery has only stood alone for a few decades:
1988
2002
buildings
Active Member
maybe some people should take a time out. starting to look like I'm in connect2edmonton.
cmd uw
Active Member
No, people need to be called out when warranted.
archited
Senior Member
^ I agree.
jugs5050
New Member
Heard that there was no Indigenous engagement done on this project at all. Not good.
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IanO
Superstar
Is that a requirement under the Land Use Bylaw?
David A
Senior Member
There is also always various concerns about building closer to the river (flood zones, wildlife corridors, etc... I like the project and feel it will benefit the area, but I wish it would be done all on the west side of the road.
ededed
New Member
I don't understand, why would that be expected ?
northlands
Senior Member
They may be referencing the CBC article Maclac posted previously:
Veronica McRae has been a resident of Rossdale for around 20 years. As a Cree person in the neighbourhood, she said she would like to see more collaboration with diverse members of the community on the proposal.
"The river valley system was a transportation of trade for Indigenous people. The land around the river valley was for hunting and for communities to come together," she said. "The fact that there was no consideration of honouring that is upsetting."
McRae said she wants to see the city and the developers engaging with Indigenous elders and knowledge keepers on how to steer the project.
"There also needs to be a balance of honouring the past and seeking counsel to those that were here first and asking them what is the respectful way that we can use this land considering all the needs of the present day," she said.
ededed
New Member
My god, if I roll my eyes any harder I'll have to see my optometrist.
MacLac
Senior Member
You're NOT allowed to roll your eyes!!!!
Seamusmuldrew
Active Member
Yikes guys. Rossdale is a pretty culturally sensitive area, didn’t realize that was news.
Platinum107
Senior Member
If this is true, you would think that after the Prairie Sky Gondola and the mess that project went through because of lacking engagement, there would be more consideration for engagement here?
Regardless of one's personal gripes or jadedness towards the topic, this is an area where it's important that engagement with indigenous residents and people happens for multiple reasons. It's just a fact. Let's not have another project go under cause of ignorance please.