archited
Senior Member
Neither was your previous editing of my comments an effort suitable for here -- so you may have manners, but not many in my books.
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ChazYEG
Senior Member
Do you really want to go down this?
In any case, I was referring to the Hyperloop technology being legit, but if you feel like it's applicable to you, I won't dispute it.
archited
Senior Member
"There are a few of us who are deranged and believe in the tooth fairy" is not personal -- you must be kidding!!! As I said before on our last phone call -- do your best -- you are the least imposing person that I have ever come across!
archited
Senior Member
You might think that you are witty and funny -- you are a legend in your own mind!
kcantor
Senior Member
aahhh... you were referring to the "next generation hyperloop", not the one that has actually been tested - sort of - or yet proposed anywhere - at least that i'm aware of.
the second generation plasma powered "think of it like an octopus" fluxjet.
archited
Senior Member
No, Ken, I am not referring to any specific Hyperlink proposal because we don't know the final details as yet -- I am just saying that since it is a private development, privately funded why try to tear it apart... let's see what comes of this -- the technology is valid; let's see how it comes together. Surely we don't have to continue arguing in vague etherspace.
itom987
Senior Member
Archited, the THEORY is valid, the technology is unproven so far. This is just like fusion energy, it is still a long way from being reality.
If Alberta gets it first, it will be a shitty one similar to the Model-T for cars.
If Alberta gets it first, it will be a shitty one similar to the Model-T for cars.
ChazYEG
Senior Member
Said the weasel.
archited
Senior Member
...to the donkey!
Didama
Active Member
Dream big, it's the most Edmonton thing you can do *eyeroll* yeah the Model-T sure never did anything for the world. I'm sure Michigan laughed at Ford and ridiculed his unproven technology too. An open mind is too much to ask for in this city sometimes. Come to this city only if you bring ideas that have been done a thousand times over in other places...revolutionary thinking not allowed.
ChazYEG
Senior Member
You got me there. Had to be one to fall for your con.
kcantor
Senior Member
i'm not sure how valid that comparison is but if you want to make it there are more similarities than you might think...
as far as i am aware, if hyperloop does proceed it will require right of way of an indeterminant width from edmonton to calgary. it is unclear whether that needs to be acquired by hyperloop or whether it will be acquired and provided by the province. also unclear is what will be provided - and at whose cost - in terms of access to the entire line for emergency response teams as well as maintenance.
as far as using the model t as a comparable, while it's true enough that michigan may well have initially laughed at ford and ridiculed the unproven technology, the public cost in supporting that technology in terms of roadways and infrastructure and public health and municipal design etc. in the last 115 years has been pretty substantive. while these have been externalities from ford's perspective, they probably shouldn't have been in terms of securing and maintaining public support.
if you want to use how north america in particular has dealt with the automobile as a reason for north america to support hyperloop, hyperloop would never see the light of day. that's not to take a position against dreaming either big or small, just noting that just because someone can dream something doesn't make it achievable and doesn't make it practical even if it is achievable.
JuliallThat
Active Member
Besides all the impracticality of betting the horse on an unproven technology when HSR does exactly what we need with none of those concerns.
I think the biggest reason I would hate to see the Hyperloop actually become reality instead of HSR is all the concepts always seem to use opaque tubes.
Riding a train all the way down to Calgary and not even being able to watch the prairie rip by would be so lame!
I think the biggest reason I would hate to see the Hyperloop actually become reality instead of HSR is all the concepts always seem to use opaque tubes.
Riding a train all the way down to Calgary and not even being able to watch the prairie rip by would be so lame!
itom987
Senior Member
I think you are all missing my point. The Model-T example is the vehicle's capabilities only, not the infrastructure. It was underpowered and not very reliable compared to today's cars.
Didama
Active Member
i'm not sure how valid that comparison is but if you want to make it there are more similarities than you might think...
as far as i am aware, if hyperloop does proceed it will require right of way of an indeterminant width from edmonton to calgary. it is unclear whether that needs to be acquired by hyperloop or whether it will be acquired and provided by the province. also unclear is what will be provided - and at whose cost - in terms of access to the entire line for emergency response teams as well as maintenance.
as far as using the model t as a comparable, while it's true enough that michigan may well have initially laughed at ford and ridiculed the unproven technology, the public cost in supporting that technology in terms of roadways and infrastructure and public health and municipal design etc. in the last 115 years has been pretty substantive. while these have been externalities from ford's perspective, they probably shouldn't have been in terms of securing and maintaining public support.
if you want to use how north america in particular has dealt with the automobile as a reason for north america to support hyperloop, hyperloop would never see the light of day. that's not to take a position against dreaming either big or small, just noting that just because someone can dream something doesn't make it achievable and doesn't make it practical even if it is achievable.
Why not welcome the company to build a test track? As far as I know that's the first step being proposed and (presumably) said company isn't about to pump billions of dollars into building infrastructure between Edmonton and Calgary unless it has solid proof of concept. I guess I just don't understand why everyone is freaking out over a private company wanting to spend their own money to build a test track for a technology that *could* be truly revolutionary. Why are we so afraid of everything new in this city?