What do you think of this project?


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This is the last building left to clear off on the Grandin 2 site at 112 Street and 100 Ave - currently in progress as we speak.

The Grandin 4 site, a six storey building that should begin construction soon, is immediately beside this to the west. It should be the next new residential project in Oliver to get going.

I wonder if Westrich is still proposing a tower to go up on this site beside their 6-storey build or if they will scale this down, too.

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This is the last building left to clear off on the Grandin 2 site at 112 Street and 100 Ave - currently in progress as we speak.

The Grandin 4 site, a six storey building that should be beginning construction soon, is immediately beside this to the west. It should be the next new residential project in Oliver to get going.

I wonder if Westrich is still proposing a tower to go up on this site beside their 6-storey build or if they will scale this down, too.

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Would they be going ahead with demolishing this property at this time if they weren’t planning on building the tower soon? Is there a chance this might start construction around the same time as their 6 story building across the alley? 🤔
 
Would they be going ahead with demolishing this property at this time if they weren’t planning on building the tower soon? Is there a chance this might start construction around the same time as their 6 story building across the alley? 🤔
They might use the second lot as a staging area and build the tower later. They'll have to demo regardless and it might just make their life easier
 
the house-6plex conversion thingamajig on the lot immediately north of the 6-storey woodframe site to the west of this (facing 113 st, across the back alley from the tower/demo site shown in photos here) went up for sale a couple months ago. the whole building, being sold as an income property. It is currently in good shape (photos of interiors from the listing looked good) and the building is occupied. i am curious, however, if Westrich bought it.
The apartment for sale would add 50' of frontage to the 113 site, creating an ~200'x150' site facing 113 and 100ave. this would allow for a lot more units in a woodframe, or provide more room to maneuver for a tower, better than the demo/tower site facing 112 that this thread discusses. the sign for the apartment on 113 has been down for a while, and there's been nothing but some dirt dumped on the 113 site since the DP went for public review a couple months ago. that lag is not unusual, but given circumstances i wonder what is happening behind the scenes.
My complete conjecture (I don't deal with Westrich at all) is that they might have bought that apartment on 113 to enlarge that site. that would make 113 a much better candidate for a larger tower. the 6-storey woodframe would go on 112, onto the 150'x150' site there. this would require reworking designs, new DPs, and probably zoning, but would allow for bigger, more efficient projects, allowing Westrich more latitude on the larger site to do something better than a tight tower (see Falcon; that's a 150'x150', and the podium on that is SQUISHY. not a lot of value created on those lower levels, once all the service spaces are carved out) facing 112.
This is complete conjecture, but idk. If Westrich is still at the stage to change plans for these projects, I feel like swapping the sites would have benefits.
 
^ Apparently, Westrich had a tentative deal to purchase this property a couple of years ago and according to one person I talked to, that fell through because there was a request to change the original price to purchase (and not by the seller). I don't think the seller has too favorable an opinion of westrich or this development anymore and spoke at council in opposition when the latest rezoning was before committee.

I don't see a deal happening but you never know.
 
^ Apparently, Westrich had a tentative deal to purchase this property a couple of years ago and according to one person I talked to, that fell through because there was a request to change the original price to purchase (and not by the seller). I don't think the seller has too favorable an opinion of westrich or this development anymore and spoke at council in opposition when the latest rezoning was before committee.

I don't see a deal happening but you never know.
the seller is caught between a rock and a hard place or a highrise and a low rise. that lot would end up having next to no property value once it's sandwiched in between two higher density buildings.
 
the seller is caught between a rock and a hard place or a highrise and a low rise. that lot would end up having next to no property value once it's sandwiched in between two higher density buildings.
He definitely wanted to sell but when the offer apparently changed, things went south.

Property is well cared for though and looks solid and probably generates pretty good income. Not sure how many units in there.
 
He definitely wanted to sell but when the offer apparently changed, things went south.

Property is well cared for though and looks solid and probably generates pretty good income. Not sure how many units in there.
Thanks, i wasn't aware of all the background drama. the building is in good shape. heavily renovated, but it's one of the last of those big foursquare-turned apartments left in Oliver. once it's boxed in (as things seem to be headed) it will be a funky little property. it seems to have some eclectic tenants (there's one guy who takes a lawn chair out onto the flat roof of the basement staircase and sunbathes) but it seems clean and well-maintained. hopefully it will stick around for a while, and not get turned into a parking lot or something stupid.
 
^ FYI the building being discussed above

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It would be a tight lot to redevelop in the future with Westrich's buildings next door, but it's not entirely undevelopable. You could potentially build something 6 storeys and narrowish here, but including underground parking would be tough
 
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