IanO
Superstar
My understanding is that there was a XX$sqft that was palatable and on the table, but folks got a little greedy.
- Thread starter Daveography
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Avenuer
Senior Member
Yup, they wanted something like $100/sq. ft. while the City was proposing $50 per sq. ft. at the most. They got greedy and ended up getting nothing.
Gronk!
Senior Member
MacLac
Senior Member
Walked by on Saturday night.....a LOT of lights were on at Midnight....by the looks of it at least half of the units on the West facing side......not bad....
IanO
Superstar
Looking down from the 42nd at Encore.
archited
Senior Member
we should start a fund for photography lessons.
Edmontonian
Active Member
Fixed it
Greenspace
Senior Member
10023 - 104 STREET NW Plan 2320719 Blk 3 Lot 67A - Major Development Permit
External ID550028441-002
Job Type
Major Development Permit
Description
Alteration of (an) existing building(s), Change of Use / Interior Alterations
Applicant
DHUNNA ASSOCIATES INC.
Status
Intake Review
Class of Permit
Create Date
December 16, 2024
Approval Date
Location
10023 - 104 STREET NW Plan 2320719 Blk 3 Lot 67A
Neighbourhood
DOWNTOWN
archited
Senior Member
Interesting -- I wonder if this relates to a retail unit in the podium.
Greenspace
Senior Member
Yes it does. I'm hearing it's a daycare.
fromyeg
Active Member
This would be fantastic. Exactly the sort of thing that is needed to attract and retain families downtown.
David A
Senior Member
Perhaps more is needed, but isn't there already a daycare for a long time in a building about a block away on 103rd and 100 Ave, the one with the brand new bar/restaurant?
Greenspace
Senior Member
$10/day daycare there's huge demand across the city.
NicolBolas
Active Member
More is needed for that.
Downtown isn't all that attractive for families with young kids. As a person with a young family who lives in a single family home way in the far north east here would be my barricades.
- My perception of safety downtown for my kids still isn't the greatest.
- Our LRT system is not efficient, nor is it safe for me to make my commute worth it.
- It lacks vibrancy, if downtown is about as active as a suburban neighborhood then my desire to give up a yard for it is greatly diminished.
thommyjo
Senior Member
Making our DT attractive for families to live in still feels like a red herring. Not a bad goal at all, and the 8 80 principle for building cities is wise to follow.
But realistically, Vancouver can only get 5-10% of households in the core to have kids (source) and they have:
1. astronomical house prices compared to us
2. significantly less housing with backyards/3+ bedrooms within 10mins or downtown (vs us having glenora, westmount, inglewood, prince rupert, Queen Mary, blatchford, highlands, Alberta ave, forest heights, etc all offering “family sized” housing) with basically no commute).
3. Way nicer areas downtown in terms of parks, waterfront, schools, walkable and quiet streets
4. They have milder weather, which makes life with kids easier for urban living vs pushing strollers in the snow, dealing with snowsuits on transit, the need for a car vs biking/walking
5. More “safe” parts of their downtown (with many that of course aren’t safe or are only perceived as safer).
If families regularly leave Vancouver for Langley, Abbotsford, tri cities, etc, we will have a hard time keep many in our true core.
I think instead, we should focus on:
1) incredible attractions for kids (DT library, museum, Churchill fountains, etc are awesome). Our recent park designs leave room for improvement though.
2) safe and efficient transit, biking, and even yes, parking. One improvement for biking is more secure storage for cargo bikes, e-bikes, and kids bikes. Having a manned security, camera covered, parking area as part of Churchill or the library makes the most sense to me here.
3) Developing adjacent areas to be as family attractive as possible. More townhomes with 3+ bedrooms in Wihkwentowin for example. Investment into schools and parks on these areas. Rebuild Oliver pool/rink/playground into a multi story rec centre.
4) family events. Disney symphony is a real hit. Different festivals get families out, which is great to see. More ways to get families from the suburbs to come into the core, even if just a few days a year, brings money into our local businesses and gives chances for people to see and discover changes in the core (hopefully positive ones…)