Have there never been major incidents that required the police to come and some or all of the mall was shut down elsewhere?

I recall a few at one high profile suburban mall, but it something happens downtown hey it must be worse.
 
David A said:
Have there never been major incidents that required the police to come and some or all of the mall was shut down elsewhere?

I recall a few at one high profile suburban mall, but it something happens downtown hey it must be worse.
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I dont quite follow you.
 
Yeggy said:
I dont quite follow you.
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I gather he's alluding to the fact that we've had incidents with the police at WEM and Southgate, but they never seem to get as much coverage and flack as when something happens in ECC.
This is actually a reflection of the general say things are perceived and reported in Edmonton. Bad shit happens in a fairly affluent suburb, like the hit that killed two in Ellerslie a few weeks ago, and it's always "an isolated incident and it's still super safe here", even though it's no that uncommon to have severe crimes in suburban areas, but a random hobo yells at half a dozen people in a DT LRT station and "our DT is crap and dangerous, no one is safe, run for your lives."
 
ChazYEG said:
I gather he's alluding to the fact that we've had incidents with the police at WEM and Southgate, but they never seem to get as much coverage and flack as when something happens in ECC.
This is actually a reflection of the general say things are perceived and reported in Edmonton. Bad shit happens in a fairly affluent suburb, like the hit that killed two in Ellerslie a few weeks ago, and it's always "an isolated incident and it's still super safe here", even though it's no that uncommon to have severe crimes in suburban areas, but a random hobo yells at half a dozen people in a DT LRT station and "our DT is crap and dangerous, no one is safe, run for your lives."
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There was no coverage the day my tower was locked down ,a tower attached to the mall, the day death threats were called into our company. (TD).

There was no media called the days we saw bodies covered in sheets cause they jumped.

There is a lot that goes on DT that isnt blasted everywhere, that being said when city tv were and cbc is located DT and those organizations have/had their eyes literally on those streets, you cant blame them for covering dt issues.

I have seem many reports of WEM and dead people found in the lagoon, OD’s at rock n rides, issues with the prior night clubs… lets not forget the owners financial issues.

Kingsway had articles posted about nazi images sprayed on it.

So from a reporting standpoint I dont see much issue. I cant speak for how the public interprets them. We are, however, much more forgiving and biased towards spaces/places we view as ours. I suspect DT’s harshest critiques come from those who actually never go.
 
It wasn't even that long ago that The Bay was actually still somewhat busy at this time of the year. I did much of my holiday shopping there from 2005-2017 and recall it being quieter than saw WEM or Kingsway, but still respectable and it made holiday shopping kinda fun with folks around there and Manu.
 
I used to go there regularly too and it generally seemed steady although not really busy during the day. I do wonder what happened to all of former customers since.

I for one go to the KIngsway or Southgate ones, but only very occasionally as it is not as convenient, maybe 25% as much as I went to the downtown location or less.

I have gone to Winners a number of times, about all that's left for me that is convenient to walk to downtown.
 
Given a lot of the Bay customers were a bit older, I don't see most becoming big on line shoppers. I suppose if you are retired, it is not too hard to drive or take the LRT to say Kingsway, if you have time.

IDK, maybe the Bay there is busier now, but I was never that impressed by that location. It really wasn't one of the better ones before. Maybe that has changed somewhat.
 
Simons exists which has generally eliminated any need or desire to visit The Bay. The Bay shopping experience isn't competitive, at least at any locations I've been to.
 
Sure, but The Bay was ideal for many of us living Downtown for appliances, sheets, towels, shoes, misc. kitchen items and even quick gifts for kids birthdays.

It is/was a significant loss for Downtown and eroded the value proposition of living centrally.
 
The Bay was breaking even pre-pandemic, even with Valley Line construction and significant shoplifting. They might still be here in some form if it wasn't for that.
 
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