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The big one is getting the City to be back for more employees, but it's certainly not limited to them by any means.

It's been a death by a thousand cuts, so time to bring back wins by a thousand people.
 
IanO said:
The big one is getting the City to be back for more employees, but it's certainly not limited to them by any means.

It's been a death by a thousand cuts, so time to bring back wins by a thousand people.
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Yup, that would be huge although they foolishly put it in their union contracts from what I understand so good luck putting that genie back.
 
I was in Manulife and City Centre yesterday and found it surprisingly busy for a Monday in the middle of the summer. I'm not sure about government, but a lot of the people at least in the private sector, are back now.
 
David A said:
I was in Manulife and City Centre yesterday and found it surprisingly busy for a Monday in the middle of the summer. I'm not sure about government, but a lot of the people at least in the private sector, are back now.
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Helps the days Enbridge is in the office, once cwb/nbf moves into manulife after the renos are done it’s gonna be busy there.
 
Oilguy said:
Now we need the city, the Feds, the province, ,
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Not happening in my lifetime. Left-wing governments rewarded their union contributors with "no longer have to work ever and still get paid" contracts. As someone who actually works, and works hard for a living, it's infuriating how hard it is to get an actual bureaucrat to follow up on a call or email.
 
Offworld said:
As someone who actually works, and works hard for a living, it's infuriating how hard it is to get an actual bureaucrat to follow up on a call or email.
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As someone who actually works in government, here's the deal:

First, people who work at home do actually get a lot done. Everyone is different, whether they're students in school, or people working in an office - some work better around others, others work better on their own.

Second, the long wait-time isn't because bureaucrats are ignoring you; it's because governments are very risk adverse. Politicians and high-level execs are afraid of different people hearing different messaging, or classified/outdated info being released accidently. So, the responses have to get approved through a lot of levels of management; the lower levels are focusing more on quality, and the upper levels are just making sure that the messaging is consistent and not leaking anything. It takes a frustratingly long time to get those higher-level approvals unfortunately, but that's just because the senior execs have so many different things on their plate and it all gets triaged (AB Infrastructure currently has 247 active "action requests," which encompass decision points, meeting packages, public correspondence, etc).
 
Barnaby said:
Not really. Stantec is a North American anomaly which was incredibly ambitious. Tall towers stray from mixed use in MOST situations for a reason. Vancouver has Shangri-La, Edmonton has Stantec, New York has 35 Hudson Yards.

Multiple elevator banks are needed unless you go with sky lobbies, but then you're mixing residential with hotel guests, which isn't generally acceptable. What would really happen is dedicated elevator banks for the different uses (like Stantec and Marriot). Sounds great until you realize what this does for usable square footage.
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You need multiple elevator banks whether you’re multiple use or single use. It's a function of height much more than use.
 
Barnaby said:
You can have transfer floors and stack them though. That doesn't remove as much useable square footage.
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You can have transfer floors but that doesn’t mean you can stack them. You need space above each bank for mechanical rooms and you need space below each bank for pits and fall protection safety equipment.
 
Mother Earth Essentials is moving Downtown into the former Welcome Centre next to the conference centre. It opens this Friday.


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CplKlinger said:
As someone who actually works in government, here's the deal:

First, people who work at home do actually get a lot done. Everyone is different, whether they're students in school, or people working in an office - some work better around others, others work better on their own.

Second, the long wait-time isn't because bureaucrats are ignoring you; it's because governments are very risk adverse. Politicians and high-level execs are afraid of different people hearing different messaging, or classified/outdated info being released accidently. So, the responses have to get approved through a lot of levels of management; the lower levels are focusing more on quality, and the upper levels are just making sure that the messaging is consistent and not leaking anything. It takes a frustratingly long time to get those higher-level approvals unfortunately, but that's just because the senior execs have so many different things on their plate and it all gets triaged (AB Infrastructure currently has 247 active "action requests," which encompass decision points, meeting packages, public correspondence, etc).
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Right, so left-wing snowflake-driven policies gum action to a complete halt, lest a single person be aggrieved and an enforced healing session commence, after cancelling a good project first.

Only the government and its hard-left unionized "workers" could come up with such a scam: get paid full time to sit on hands, and blame someone up the ladder instead of clamouring for policy change.
 
Offworld said:
Right, so left-wing snowflake-driven policies gum action to a complete halt, lest a single person be aggrieved and an enforced healing session commence, after cancelling a good project first.

Only the government and its hard-left unionized "workers" could come up with such a scam: get paid full time to sit on hands, and blame someone up the ladder instead of clamouring for policy change.
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I'm not sure how this is responding in any way to the post you're quoting.
 
Offworld said:
Right, so left-wing snowflake-driven policies gum action to a complete halt, lest a single person be aggrieved and an enforced healing session commence, after cancelling a good project first.
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Sir, I work for the provincial government. Please point me to these left wing policies you speak of; I can report them to help meet our mandatory red tape reduction targets 😂

Offworld said:
Only the government and its hard-left unionized "workers" could come up with such a scam: get paid full time to sit on hands, and blame someone up the ladder instead of clamouring for policy change.
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How could we have 200+ active files on the go at once—in just my ministry—if we're sitting on our hands until one decision is made, before moving onto the next issue? And how do you propose we clamour for policy change? Go on strike until government lets us email external parties without three layers of approval for the draft?

I hate to break it to you, but the executives hate it as much as the staff; they have experts (like, actual engineers and whatnot who come from the private sector). They would love nothing more than for their staff to do their jobs with more independence because it'd save everyone's time and let those managers get more things done. It's the politicians who are really risk adverse; it just takes one mistake to spark a whole scandal, and when your job relies on public opinion you become very scandal-adverse.

Now, back to the topic at-hand, I'm excited to see how downtown is doing in five years. The VLW will be finished, there'll be more residential units opened, a huge park, the first buildings at Village at Ice (if we're lucky and council approves the agreement), and perhaps some initial investments through the expanded CRL. I'm hopeful that the momentum we're seeing right now will continue; maybe even to the point where @IanO can bully Westrich into building a tower downtown :)
 
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