[christiesplits]

The Cycling Report just passed Ctte, with the following Amendments:

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Happy to see some modest cycling infrastructure proposed for the northern half of Toronto-Danforth, although Donlands/Greenwood remains a glaring hole in the network.

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[Northern Light]

If it's made one way for cars surely it can fit a contra-flow bike lane, perhaps a contra-flow cycle track with some physical protection? It can have sharrows going the other way, and maybe some speed bumps to slow cars down?

All the precious parking can stay.

Here's what you have to work with:

That's 9.5m curb to curb, deduct 2.5M for the parking, you have 7M left.

A very minimal, sub-standard bike lanes is 1.5M (Toronto would generally require 1.8M)

Re: One-way. Nope.

If you look at the, very south limit of the street is one-way SB to Danforth, and for a variety of reasons, flipping to NB is not on.

IF you went all SB, you run into a variety of challenges, no left turn to Danforth makes it very problematic, further north you also have a major apartment building with parking.

 

[Frankietls]

The Cycling Report just passed Ctte, with the following Amendments:

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If I understand it correctly from this motion, Fletcher added Logan contra-flow bike lane back to the report and only Carlaw remains one way with sharrow ?

 

[TwoWheelPoli]

Possible.

Through Broadview north of Cosburn has cycling facilities, and it isn't all that high traffic at most times.

Adding facilities right at the Danforth approach (with streetcar tracks present) would be a real challenge though.

Edit to add:

There is no way to add cycling facilities at Danforth, beyond a sharrow, with the buildings on the west side coming down. There just isn't the room.

So I don't think a Broadview extension is super likely. Looking at where it may serve some utility, there would be an argument for taking it to Pottery/Mortimer. After that, it might feasible to consider contra-flow lanes on Browning/Fulton to make the E-W connection to Logan.

Cycling facilities on Cambridge to (beyond Sharrows) don't appear feasible to me unless you remove parking.

Regarding Broadview, the most realistic way to extend the bikeway south of Cosburn is to bring it to Chester Hill which has a contraflow. You would then need to convert the westbound Danforth bike lane from Broadview to Cambridge to a bi-directional to allow southbound bike traffic to travel east.

 

[TwoWheelPoli]

If I understand it correctly from this motion, Fletcher added Logan contra-flow bike lane back to the report and only Carlaw remains one way with sharrow ?

Only one block of Logan from Cosburn to Gowan would get a contraflow bike lane. This is to make Carlaw accessible from Cosburn.

 

[Northern Light]

Happy to see some modest cycling infrastructure proposed for the northern half of Toronto-Danforth, although Donlands/Greenwood remains a glaring hole in the network.

I'm a big proponent of Donlands. Its been pushed back so many times. The only real challenge there is the angle parking by the retail south of O'Connor (it needs to go) that will get push back.

Currently, its placeholdered for 2030.

But take that with a large grain of salt. I remember when it was programmed for 2019!

 

[bearcat]

Here's what you have to work with:

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That's 9.5m curb to curb, deduct 2.5M for the parking, you have 7M left.

A very minimal, sub-standard bike lanes is 1.5M (Toronto would generally require 1.8M)

Re: One-way. Nope.

If you look at the, very south limit of the street is one-way SB to Danforth, and for a variety of reasons, flipping to NB is not on.

IF you went all SB, you run into a variety of challenges, no left turn to Danforth makes it very problematic, further north you also have a major apartment building with parking.

I understand no cycling infrastructure will fit providing we keep the street two way for cars and keep all of the on street parking.

I guess I haven't put enough thought into the implications of making the street one way for cars.

 

[bearcat]

I'm a big proponent of Donlands. Its been pushed back so many times. The only real challenge there is the angle parking by the retail south of O'Connor (it needs to go) that will get push back.

Currently, its placeholdered for 2030.

But take that with a large grain of salt. I remember when it was programmed for 2019!

Perhaps Fletcher will be gone by then, as she will fight tooth and nail for that angled parking probably .

 

[Northern Light]

Perhaps Fletcher will be gone by then, as she will fight took and nail for that angled parking probably .

We can live in hope.

Of course, her predecessor in the north part of the ward, before Ford's messing about was Fragedakis...........

She now runs the Greektown BIA, who bumbled their public square re-do, by refusing to grow it into Carlaw. She wasn't much use then or now, either.

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Just you wait til Fletcher hears about the cycle tracks on O'Connor......... LOL

 

[bearcat]

Just you wait til Fletcher hears about the cycle tracks on O'Connor......... LOL

this is news to me! is the plan to connect Woodbine and the St. Clair East cycling infrastructure I asked about a few pages back?

 

[Northern Light]

this is news to me! is the plan to connect Woodbine and the St. Clair East cycling infrastructure I page asked about a few pages back?

That would be the hope, yes.

The bridge remains a very large unresolved issue.

 

[afransen]

dutch style Raised crosswalks? trying to remember another location that has those in Toronto?

I think the concept here needs work. Raised crosswalk in asphalt still reads as pedestrians entering car space, and not cars entering pedestrian space. Dutch style is more "continuous sidewalk". Raised asphalt humps is not necessarily best practice.

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

Then we have the hazardous monolithic sidewalk driveway ramps. Designed for the automobile to enter or egress driveways at a higher speed. Not good for the elderly, those with walkers, or those who have difficulty walking.

Used to be ramps in the gutter, which were better for pedestrians. Not so nice for autos, since they have go move slower. What's wrong with going slower?

If we still used bricks in the gutter, the rainwater could percolate into the ground, instead of forming puddles.

 

[bearcat]

That would be the hope, yes.

The bridge remains a very large unresolved issue.

From my own anecdotal experience driving there, I feel like the car traffic could potentially get by okay with just one eastbound(ish) lane on the bridge. But I am no traffic engineer. And I am not sure if using one traffic lane plus the space from the already painted edge lines will be enough for nicely separated bike infrastructure.

 

[pawlyshyn]

Many large islands of various shapes along Harbord St. between Spadina and Bathurst: This bike lane is shaping up to have a deluxe vibe: