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Yesterday was beautiful. In my 22 km ride home I easily saw hundreds of cyclists out and about.

We had our first Let’s Bike There YEG cargo bike and kids playground meet of the year this morning, great turn out despite the chillier weather. My 2 year old has hit 200 km in a month for the first time.
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dkazzed said:
Yesterday was beautiful. In my 22 km ride home I easily saw hundreds of cyclists out and about.

We had our first Let’s Bike There YEG cargo bike and kids playground meet of the year this morning, great turn out despite the chillier weather. My 2 year old has hit 200 km in a month for the first time. View attachment 646894
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Well there you go. That's not the kids in the NE on WalMart bicycles and it's not the guy cycling to Tim Horton's to save money. No. Not at all. What you have there is the high minded and morally superior Rachel Notley constituency that wants everybody else to pay for their leisure and recreational actively.
 
Out of Towner said:
Well there you go. That's not the kids in the NE on WalMart bicycles and it's not the guy cycling to Tim Horton's to save money. No. Not at all. What you have there is the high minded and morally superior Rachel Notley constituency that wants everybody else to pay for their leisure and recreational actively.
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Those bikes are still cheaper than most cars lol.

You’re so insufferable man
 
My brother bought a 1300cc motorbike with 80,000 kms on it for $3000. Cheaper and way better than an electric bicycle.
 
Commuting by motorcycle in Edmonton is not a great experience though. I loved it in BC where motorcycles were accommodated everywhere like HOV lane access, motorcycle parking where cars wouldn't fit anyway, free motorcycle parking at YVR, etc. But nothing in Edmonton. Plus my two year old couldn't ride on my motorcycle, and oddly they don't make studded motorcycle tires.

I also used to think why buy an electric bike when I could buy a motorcycle that can take me across the country, which it did, but I couldn't imagine going back to motorcycling at this point in my life. Heck, now that my older kids are done with hockey for good, I'm getting ready to sell the second car so I can upgrade my cheap long tail bike to a front loader with weather protection.
 
itom987 said:
My brother bought a 1300cc motorbike with 80,000 kms on it for $3000. Cheaper and way better than an electric bicycle.
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How much is insurance annually for a motorbike vs ebike?

Many e-bikes are 2-3k, and used ones even cheaper.

By no measure is a motorbike cheaper than an ebike. And they’re pretty different in terms of useage. Not sure why you’d compare them? One can go 150km/hr, the other can carry kids on it.
 
Yea about $450 a year is what I paid here. There is a chance albeit smaller than motor vehicles that motorcyclists can cause injury, death, and property damage to others, but they are just as vulnerable as cyclists. I paid $700 a year in BC but again it was worth the cost for the commuting/parking perks plus the much longer riding season.
 
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Out of Towner said:
Well there you go. That's not the kids in the NE on WalMart bicycles and it's not the guy cycling to Tim Horton's to save money. No. Not at all. What you have there is the high minded and morally superior Rachel Notley constituency that wants everybody else to pay for their leisure and recreational actively.
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I can’t tell if you’re serious. I’ve already told you how many children use the paths to go to school. Did you see a picture of adults riding bicycles and conclude that children don’t use bike paths? Do I have to post a picture of the kids riding bikes to school each time someone comments?
 
It was mostly a group of parents who have kids who are too young to go school on their own still, who have either opted to ditch their expensive second or even primary vehicles for a bicycle that's a fraction of the cost so they can carry their kids and groceries. The Urban Arrows visually dominate the photo but there were also other motorized and non-motorized bakfiets including an impressive homemade one that made me wish I knew how to weld, long tails, Aliexpress bikes. My teenagers have been riding around on their own since they were old enough, but they mostly prefer MTBing now and using LRT to get there.

By the way, the ignore function works great here. Most other forums will continue to display ignored users posts in line in the thread but the only time I see that a certain someone has posted anything here is when they're quoted:
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Not saying anyone here has to resort to this, but my energy is not worth the very small percentage of people I can't have meaningful conversations with. I'm also not going to be someone else's cup of tea either and that's ok.
 

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ededed said:
I can’t tell if you’re serious. I’ve already told you how many children use the paths to go to school. Did you see a picture of adults riding bicycles and conclude that children don’t use bike paths? Do I have to post a picture of the kids riding bikes to school each time someone comments?
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Kids can be exempted from paying a bike path user fee that's been publicly funded imo but there's no reason why an affluent demographic shouldn't pay a user fee. The fact that cyclists pay property taxes is not a valid reason why they shouldn't pay a fee because paying property tax doesn't make them unique in any way. Everybody pays property taxes either directly to the city or through a landlord and if non cyclists began using the reasoning used by cyclists, then non cyclists should be entitled to free transportation too.
 
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