TRONto
Active Member
Most people only know the Centre Island exists ("Centre" as in middle), so I can't believe the response is serious.
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afransen
Senior Member
I have on a handful of occasions flown out and back same day for work, in which case I just bring a backpack. Usually it is longer than that.
TRONto
Active Member
Interesting from Gemini:
"While it is one of the most bike-friendly airports in North America, the exact number of people who bike specifically to catch a flight is a bit of a moving target.
According to the most recent comprehensive studies by PortsToronto and Dillon Consulting, about 41% of travelers use "green" or non-automobile transportation (walking, biking, transit, or the airport shuttle) to reach Billy Bishop (YTZ).
Here is a breakdown of what we know about the cyclists:
The Numbers
"While it is one of the most bike-friendly airports in North America, the exact number of people who bike specifically to catch a flight is a bit of a moving target.
According to the most recent comprehensive studies by PortsToronto and Dillon Consulting, about 41% of travelers use "green" or non-automobile transportation (walking, biking, transit, or the airport shuttle) to reach Billy Bishop (YTZ).
Here is a breakdown of what we know about the cyclists:
The Numbers
- The "Active" Group: Around 10-15% of departing passengers use a combination of walking and cycling.
- Biking Specifically: While a specific standalone percentage for just biking is rarely isolated in public reports, it is part of the "Active Transportation" category that has seen a 52% increase in usage over the last several years.
- Total Volume: Given that the airport handles roughly 2.8 million passengers annually, even a small percentage (e.g., 1-2%) would mean tens of thousands of people are pedaling to the terminal each year.
Why It's Popular at YTZ
- The Martin Goodman Trail: The airport sits directly on this major waterfront bike path, making it one of the few airports in the world you can reach via a dedicated, scenic bike lane.
- Infrastructure: There are Bike Share Toronto stations located right at the mainland terminal (Bathurst and Queens Quay), and the airport provides open-air and sheltered bike lockups on the island side.
- The "Last Mile" Ease: Since the airport is only about 3 km from the downtown core, it’s often faster to bike there than to sit in Liberty Village or Lakeshore traffic."
"While YYZ (Toronto Pearson) doesn't have the same "bike-to-the-gate" culture as the downtown airport, its transit profile has shifted significantly since the launch of the UP Express. For travelers, the percentage using non-automobile transportation is roughly 10-15%."
Do we not care about using active transport to the airport? What happened to us? (being facetious don't scream at me)
Ward8
Active Member
Bad faith semantic reading aside. The airport is in the middle, between the existing park and the rest of the city. The only access point is the ferry terminal, which as you stated, raises the 'overhead.'
urbanclient
Senior Member
In jest or not, can we stop it with the AI slop arguments?
picard102
Senior Member
The port authority would have no reason not lock it down. It's a liability to just open it up to anyone to walk through once closed.
Good. It's the only thing that keeps the island the way it is.
Ward8
Active Member
In perpetuity? It would get demolished if it's shut down. Look at downsview.
This is eye opening.
picard102
Senior Member
Yes, look at downsview. Public access is restricted to certain areas and will be 10 - 20 years before it's a public space.
You're surprised that someone who uses the islands is interested in protecting the island environment?
bobbob911
Active Member
I too have long thought that bridge access to the islands would result in the islands being overrun and ruining what makes the islands special. The ferries are just the right amount of friction. If you want to go on a busy summer day, book ahead. Or pay $20 for a water taxi.
picard102
Senior Member
Exactly. Hanlan's already gets its fair share of creeps, karens, and aggressive dudebros. Can't imagine how bad it would get if access was easier.
nightstreak
Senior Member
Here it is. It's not just the length of the runway, it's the frequency of landings and takeoffs, doubling or tripling as many as today. If you've tried to enjoy a performance at the Music Garden, you know how much this is going to ruin the nature of the park. As for Ontario Place, what was the purpose of spending billions there only to have it within a stone's throw of an airport tarmac?
Mihairokov
Senior Member
I think we need to have a serious discussion on what constitutes "public access" and what constitutes something akin to a Costco entry fee barrier. Hanlan's is nice but automatically assuming it's overrun by creeps by making it more accessible leans on a belief that the public at large are untrustworthy.
cryogen
New Member
You're saying "here it is" as if the final plans have been released. Can we please stop with the speculation and fear mongering?
bobbob911
Active Member
It’s already happening https://www.toronto.com/news/toront...cle_00747ffe-ce82-558b-9763-cb5044dc1a8e.html
Mihairokov
Senior Member
This is in reference to public health orders surrounding COVID.