reinventingthewheel
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POV of evacuation via instagram
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Tim MacDonald
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Ex-Navy driver who thought he was landing on an aircraft carrier?
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Alex Freeman (@northernnerd.bsky.social)
Absolutely incredible that no one died in the Delta crash yesterday. This video is incredible.
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christiesplits
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New closeup footage of the crash:
JJTheJetPln
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There's new footage of the crash that appears to be clearer than what was initially posted online. I can't find a direct link since it was posted in a discord server I frequent.
It looked like the plane was coming in hot with no flaps. The landing was so fast and rough that the rear gears bounced and then one of them appear to have collapsed from the weight of the aircraft, which resulted in the wing making contact with the runway surface and flipping the aircraft.
It looked like the plane was coming in hot with no flaps. The landing was so fast and rough that the rear gears bounced and then one of them appear to have collapsed from the weight of the aircraft, which resulted in the wing making contact with the runway surface and flipping the aircraft.
lenaitch
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Assuming this image from the Toronto Pearson thread is as accurate as described, it looks to be properly configured.
lenaitch
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As someone quipped on another forum; 'he nailed the third wire' (reference to carrier landings).
Tim MacDonald
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Another Sunwing operational melt-down. These guy have had some staggering double digit hour delays since Wednesday.
JJTheJetPln
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For those of you wondering what happened with that Delta crash at Pearson.
AlvinofDiaspar
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For those of you wondering what happened with that Delta crash at Pearson.
So it was mechanical failure, not an excessive rate of descent/pilot error.
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JJTheJetPln
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I'm interpreting the report a little differently. It seems that the excessive rate of descent / pilot error were contributing factors. Below was my interpretation based on the information provided.
After reading it over and over again, it seems like the excessive rate of descent combined with the bank angle the plane was landing at were contributing factors to the mechanical failure. The weight of the aircraft being put on the right main landing gear as opposed to both rear main gears, combined with the rate of descent (1098-1100 FPM) is insane, and explains the fractures they saw. This was the opposite of a butter landing.
The plane went from level, to a 4.7 degree right bank 2.6 seconds before touchdown, and 1.6 seconds before touchdown, that bank had increased to 5.9 degrees to the right. Less than one second before touchdown, the bank then increased to 7.1 degrees to the right, and the right main gear made contact first instead of both right and left main gears making contact. They were also descending at 1098-1110 FPM which triggered the "sink rate" EGPWS callout.
The "sink rate" EGPWS callout is supposed to mean that they descended out of the established ILS glideslope. If they had maintained a reasonable amount of descent, that callout wouldn't have happened. But it makes me wonder if the sink rate warning 2.6 seconds before landing has any weight, or if they just ignored it. I would assume that any EGPWS callout has weight and would require them to check their instruments to see what's happening.
TwinHuey
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The TSB report states the aircraft had a sink rate of “approximately 1098 fpm” and according to the aircraft Flight Operations Manual a rate of greater than 600 fpm is described as a “hard landing”. Maybe the MLG is designed to absorb the hard landing loading and it should not have failed, but we might want to wait for the TSB’s final report to determine the cause.
Tim MacDonald
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I could hear this AN124 a mile away. Cell phone pic as he passed through 4200 feet over the house a few minutes ago. I should have had the Nikon for this but just happened to have a post lunch coffee on the porch when I heard it approaching.
JJTheJetPln
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Very nice! We don't get many aircraft around my area unless they're turning to intercept 23 which... Seems like only 05 gets used more often.
TwinHuey
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Kingston Police's use of a drone to catch distracted drivers stirs backlash
PL1
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Give me a break... I hope this is ruled constitutional. There is no right to distracted driving