D-dog
New Member
You shouldn't care. As a former proud Albertan, I thought I would share since I have been hearing a lot about it. My apologies if I over stepped.
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O-tac
Senior Member
It's actually creepy the network of bots and fake media accounts the UCP is running. On Instagram over half of the comments supporting the UCP or attacking the NDP are easily verifiable fake accounts with zero posts and no pictures. They either post super generic ai style booster crap or stuff like this "new user" on here. I've been threatened by one before that seemed to be run from either India or Nigeria. This person suspiciously joining a skyscraper forum (even though it says they joined in 2024) just to post this opinion to counter the petition that I linked to seems part of that network.
Let's ask them some identifying questions then:
1) Where do you live now?
2) What city in Canada did you live in before?
3) Where were you born?
4) What is your profession?
O-tac
Senior Member
Hmmm....
Can't help but feel like we're going to be seeing some kind of Cambridge Analytica, Elon Musk affiliated election interference if this isn't immediately shut down and made an example of. Cam Davies and David Parker need to be fucking arrested over this shit!
Frankly the entire separation petition should be annulled at this point since I don't trust that these people won't use that data to forge signatures and the UCP will go along with it.
Can't help but feel like we're going to be seeing some kind of Cambridge Analytica, Elon Musk affiliated election interference if this isn't immediately shut down and made an example of. Cam Davies and David Parker need to be fucking arrested over this shit!
Frankly the entire separation petition should be annulled at this point since I don't trust that these people won't use that data to forge signatures and the UCP will go along with it.
trtcttc
Senior Member
Regardless of who you think are bots or anyone that disagrees must be bots, the UCP is popular and would win a majority government if the election is today.
I don't support separation not on some nationalistic grounds but simply it's bad for the province. There's a lot of unintended consequences and likely problems that the "leave" side has not accounted for. Most of the grievances AB has with the Feds is a lack of support and blocking AB resources. Whether you think that's real or not, if they separate, the pipeline still has to go through BC, and a foreign country that can no longer collect tax revenue on this pipeline will be MORE likely to approve it why? I think some people support separation as a protest because they believe it cannot pass so there's not point of thinking through the actual consequences.
Nimbus
Active Member
Dan must prefer the golf courses up in Edmonton...
livewirecalgary.com
Dan McLean to run for the UCP nomination in Calgary-Shaw
Dan McLean, the current Ward 13 councillor has made up his mind, and he's vying to replace outgoing Calgary-Shaw MLA Rebecca Schulz.
livewirecalgary.com
CalgaryTiger
Senior Member
The devil we don't know can't be worse than the devil we do know on council. This guy is/was such a stick in the mud. At least Chabot uses common sense.Dan must prefer the golf courses up in Edmonton...
Dan McLean to run for the UCP nomination in Calgary-Shaw
Dan McLean, the current Ward 13 councillor has made up his mind, and he's vying to replace outgoing Calgary-Shaw MLA Rebecca Schulz.
I think the UCP would probably win today, but the numbers don't always tell the story. The graph shows the UCP with a relatively solid lead in Calgary, but the election is still going to come down to those suburban ridings that voted UCP last election. I wouldn't be surprised if the NDP keeps all of their non-Calgary ridings from last election. Just a question of whether the NDP can flip a few Calgary ridings. I'm not saying it would happen, but a poll of 1,200 Albertans across the whole province isn't an accurate indication of how many seats would be won.
CalgaryTiger
Senior Member
It is also 18 months until the election. Doug Ford looked unflappable, now look at him. These numbers this far out from an election don't mean anything for election day. Especially considering we have this referendum coming in the fall.
Agreed. Plenty of time for swings back and forth. We haven't seen a ton from the NDP, and I wonder if it's by design as they look to come out harder when it's closer to the election?
O-tac
Senior Member
I think the focus on political leader approval misses the key issue of separation and the threat it poses. Look at how Poilievre imploded when he didn't stand up to Trump. I don't put a ton of stock into these polls as many people screen calls and don't participate. I know my life with young children makes it too inconvenient to do such surveys.
trtcttc
Senior Member
I wasn't saying the UCP would win the future election, and that nothing could ever change that. But simply the fact that based on the polling available today, they are currently popular and would win today. And the idea that they are currently in a terrible spot and anyone supporting them must be bots is just not borne out.
Can things swing? absolutely, but the NDP needs something that brings people over. They haven't been able to make the teachers strike, the procurement scandal, redistricting, potential separation referendum stick. Carney's popularity is up in AB and that doesn't seem to have really moved the NDP numbers either.
CalgaryTiger
Senior Member
I wonder if Nenshi maybe leans into the whole liberal thing with Carney riding high and the whole issue with the NDP label and the new federal NDP leader.
darwink
Senior Member
And Alberta might be a republic by then. There are many serious fights to come.
I tend to agree. The NDP will have to swing people, and it's not going to be easy, even though Smith's approval is barely above 50%. As the election nears, I hope the NDP brings up Smith and the Trump connection more. For example, I have a friend who was vowing never to vote for the UCP after seeing Smith's warm welcome to Trump, but the other day she mentioned she didn't think Smioth was doing that bad of job. Sometimes people forget these various scandals unless they're reminded of them.
trtcttc
Senior Member
I personally don't think these Trump adjacent attacks work. The same attacks were used against Doug Ford in Trump1 and he's been premier for almost a decade. If you look at Alberta premier downfalls it's always a scandal or internal factions. Whatever criticism you have against Smith, she's held the UCP caucus together. The PC/Alberta Party split has kind of sputtered, they the same number of MLAs as OneBC, 1. She gives just enough daylight to the extreme factions with chemtrails, separation, etc. while doing things like the MOU to keep centre-right in the party. The most obvious path for me is the healthcare scandal. It's an issue that already favours the NDP, they just need a smoking gun or something that's easy to understand like Redford's sky palace.