Nice proposal. Fantastic that they are conserving the former OAA building in full. Tower seems a bit bland for being "starchitect" designed...
 
I used to live in that apartment - many of the tenants do not live there full time and use them as pied-à-terres, but the units are very cool as the building has a side loaded corridor.
 
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Adding to the HNTO watch-list for the "40 units of Rental Replacement", etc.
 
*womp womp*
Nothing prize winning about this tower, it has zero design elements to it at all,
“it’s Toronto so we can just phone it in, have the intern punch some holes into a rectangular prism on SketchUp”
This might be worse than 357 King West.
 
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Red_Bulmer said:
*womp womp*
Nothing prize winning about this tower, it has zero design elements to it at all,
“it’s Toronto so we can just phone it in, have the intern punch some holes into a rectangular prism on SketchUp”
This might be worse than 357 King West.
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Red steps up to the plate and takes a huge swing!

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Red_Bulmer said:
*womp womp*
Nothing prize winning about this tower, it has zero design elements to it at all,
“it’s Toronto so we can just phone it in, have the intern punch some holes into a rectangular prism on SketchUp”
This might be worse than 357 King West.
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That really is way over the top.

There are clearly many thoughtful elements here.

I'll put my 'critique' up at this juncture which is that while I think this is a well designed, quality, build that fits its location, it really reads to me as a BDPQ design.

Nothing wrong w/that by the way. BDPQ produce a lot of good stuff.

But...if your paying for David Chipperfield......... should the design aesthetic reflect that choice and spend? Is quite good, good enough?

****

Having said that, I am given to understand that this is the not the final product, this is the working product to get it through ZBA.
 
Hello chatgpt, please create an architectural rendering of a generic residential building to completely blend into the surrounding built form. Use 1970's project buildings as inspiration, but make it more "beige" and incorporate window wall.
 
nimby407 said:
Hello chatgpt, please create an architectural rendering of a generic residential building to completely blend into the surrounding built form. Use 1970's project buildings as inspiration, but make it more "beige" and incorporate window wall.
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I don't see any window wall on this thing. Those are large, high quality frameless windows shown. The lines of brick variation align with the simplistic modernism of the connecting heritage building.

This isn't the site nor the location to go all out on decoration and turn this into a pomo-piece. Clean, simple lines which are well detailed will win the day and is exactly what is being proposed by the looks of it.

I admit we don't have a detailed materials board to confirm this as it's only ZBA right now, but Helberg has done excellent detailing on their other sites which will command much lower rents than this one so I have no reason to doubt it.
 
innsertnamehere said:
I don't see any window wall on this thing. Those are large, high quality frameless windows shown. The lines of brick variation align with the simplistic modernism of the connecting heritage building.

This isn't the site nor the location to go all out on decoration and turn this into a pomo-piece. Clean, simple lines which are well detailed will win the day and is exactly what is being proposed by the looks of it.

I admit we don't have a detailed materials board to confirm this as it's only ZBA right now, but Helberg has done excellent detailing on their other sites which will command much lower rents than this one so I have no reason to doubt it.
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I think the confusing part of this proposal is the developer presumably paying millions to an international award-winning design architect for a bland and generic design. It would be a challenge for an average person to pick out which is the new building in the 3D context views. Will be interested to see how they detail the slab edge and incorporate ventilation into their "high quality frameless windows" that for sure isn't window wall.
 
Red_Bulmer said:
I guess Starchitects have groupies too 🤷‍♂️

I can’t wait for the DRP comments
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I would expect unanimous or near-unanimous support for this from the DRP -- it's got lots of things going for it that the Panel often applauds: heritage retention; rental replacement; nicely laid-out units; balconies on a rental tower; a low window-to-wall ratio and a generally solid and consistent design language.
 
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