[evandyk]

Aye. This is straight up "seat/riding shopping".

On the flip side, Carney might be allowing this to happen knowing that Pierre Poilievre will essentially be indebted to him. Perhaps a deal was struck?

Little known tidbit... both Damien and Pierre are going to pocket almost a hundred grand each from this. PP gets it because all MPs who lose an election do (they call it severance, and it makes sense for a variety of reasons in most cases) but Damien also gets severance for resigning (which makes a lot less sense). So there's a lot of $ available to grease the wheels.

 

[lenaitch]

I know it’s unlikely to happen but it would be funny if he lost this one too.

I wonder if the Longest Ballot Committee will open an Alberta chapter.

There should be a 4 year residency requirement - roughly the length of a stable government.

AoD

You would have to have a workaround for the PM and Opposition Leader whose residences are fixed. For that matter, you would have have a workaround for any member who chose to up stakes and move to Ottawa for their term and tret their home ridings s visits. Even after all of that, I doubt the courts would view such a restriction as a 'reasonable limit' on Sections 3 and 6(2) of the Constitution, but ya never know.

 

[UtakataNoAnnex]

Still not over???

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/poilievre-to-run-in-alberta-byelection-1.7525104

Not surprising here. PP will likely win that seat with little opposition. And where unflattering billboards of his past quotes will likely be viewed as a positive thing...

...either way, this will not change the make up of the seat counts currently.

 

[thettctransitfanatic]

Milton East Halton Hills South just flipped to the Liberals, giving them 169 seats. There are also a recount in Terrebonne Quebec and a possible recount in Windsor Tecumseh-Lakeshore.

 

[evandyk]

Are they doing anything about the riding in the north where they closed the polls early and some people who were there at the right time couldn't vote?

 

[nfitz]

Are they doing anything about the riding in the north where they closed the polls early and some people who were there at the right time couldn't vote?

It's far worse than that. Some places never even had a ballot box arrive.

And the margin is pretty thin (Nunavut). If I were in charge, I'd void the thing, and do it again properly.

Also, it looks like with the validation, that the Conservative lead in Windsor-Tecumseh has closed from 233 to 77 - I think that 71 would have been an automatic recount.

 

[UtakataNoAnnex]

Even then, it's still not over...

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/elections-canada-terrebonne-riding-flips-validation-liberals-bloc-1.7524107

/sigh

Edit/Update: And another flipped again...

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/election-validation-riding-flip-liberal-conservative-1.7525641

...keep in mind there are 3 ridings in dispute between validations and automatic recounts here due the winnings being at ridiculously small margins. So hold onto your seats (no pun intended), this may go on for a bit.

 

[SubHuman]

It could; but they don't do it that way. They record by polling station, not by the, er, "postcode" of whomever does the voting (and with good reason; as your vote is confidential, so it runs the risk of giving your voting choice away)

I don't see how it "runs the risk giving your voting choice away" more if you vote in advance, than it would on election day.
It's the same voter information card we hand over to them in either case, that lists a poll number for both the election day and advanced days (and not just "the, er, "postcode" of whomever does the voting").

They then draw a line through your name on the list they have in front of them. You're on the list of voters prior to the election, before you or they know if you're going to vote in advance of election day.
I don't see how or why they somehow have to record voter data differently for advanced voting (if this is indeed what they do) than on election day.

Voter Information Card – Elections Canada

Information on the voter information card for the 2025 federal election in Canada.

www.elections.ca

 

[adma]

I don't see how it "runs the risk giving your voting choice away" more if you vote in advance, than it would on election day.
It's the same voter information card we hand over to them in either case, that lists a poll number for both the election day and advanced days (and not just "the, er, "postcode" of whomever does the voting").
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They then draw a line through your name on the list they have in front of them. You're on the list of voters prior to the election, before you or they know if you're going to vote in advance of election day.
I don't see how or why they somehow have to record voter data differently for advanced voting (if this is indeed what they do) than on election day.

Voter Information Card – Elections Canada

Information on the voter information card for the 2025 federal election in Canada.

www.elections.ca

Well, here's how it goes.

To take figures from 2021: again, using Parkdale-High Park as an example

If you voted on e-day in polling station #9 (roughly bound by Keele/Annette/Dundas/Humberside), you'd be part of this figure: NDP 60 votes, Lib 56 votes, CPC 14 votes, PPC 7 votes, Green 2 votes.

If you voted in advance, you'd be in polling station 605, which extended from the Junction to Keele & Bloor, encompassing at least 9 "regular" e-day polling locations, and went: 462 NDP, 367 Lib, 99 CPC, 46 PPC, 19 Green, 4 Marijuana.

The vote you cast in advance does not go into the figure for polling station #9. Yet as many an electoral analyist will tell you, it's the smaller-scaled e-day polls which convey (or ought to convey) more of the in-depth electoral character of a place than the advance polls...

 

[evandyk]

But the point of an election is not to gather fine-grained data about where people on a specific street voted. It's to elect someone to represent the riding. I'm sure politicians love to have that very fine-grained data so they know which doors to knock on next time, but it's not in the mandate.

 

[SubHuman]

... I'm sure politicians love to have that very fine-grained data so they know which doors to knock on next time, but it's not the in mandate.

If it makes them less likely to knock on my my door, then I'm definitely going to keep voting in advance.

 

[thettctransitfanatic]

Vancouver Kingsway MP Don Davies will serve as the interim NDP leader until the NDP holds a leadership convention and elects a new fulltime leader.

Meet Don Davies, the new National Democratic Party interim leader replacing Jagmeet Singh

Don Davies is the interim leader of Canada's New Democratic Party. This follows Jagmeet Singh's resignation after the party's poor election performance. The NDP secured only seven seats, losing official party status. Davies, MP for Vancouver Kingsway since 2008, aims to rebuild the party. He has...

economictimes.indiatimes.com

 

[adma]

But the point of an election is not to gather fine-grained data about where people on a specific street voted. It's to elect someone to represent the riding. I'm sure politicians love to have that very fine-grained data so they know which doors to knock on next time, but it's not in the mandate.

And as I've said before, if we're to use a travel analogy, it's like putting all the eggs into the "destination" basket without regard to there being anything meaningful to the journey.

And it's a subtle reason why Elections Canada and other such authorities already *do* provide poll-by-poll data by way of open access.

 

[lenaitch]

One concern with using election or polling information as a source of 'mineable' data for parties, agencies and companies is it might deter some people from exercising their right to vote.

 

[thettctransitfanatic]

BREAKING NEWS-Former Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer will serve as interim leader until Pierre Poilievre gets a seat in Parliament