[PinkLucy]

I found the official rationale. Apparently it's not just the high advance turnout, it's that it's also the riding targeted by those clowns in the Longest Ballot Committee and each ballot has 91 candidates and is as long as an adult giraffe's leg.

Fact sheet: Counting ballots in the electoral district of Carleton

Fact sheet: Counting ballots in the electoral district of Carleton

www.elections.ca

I am sitting here working a poll and looking at the piles of paperwork required for a ballot with just a few names. What a nightmare to deal with 91!

 

[evandyk]

This is why the results in the St. Paul's byelection weren't announced until early the next morning, despite low turnout. Quick learners at Elections Canada!

 

[evandyk]

I'm surprised they don't use scantron ballots in situations like this

I think it's a point of pride for Elections Canada that they have always hand-counted every single ballot. They read every vote out loud, and scrutineers from the parties are allowed to ask to see the ballots to make sure the counter has counted it right. At the end of the box of ballots, someone else validates that the box is empty. Pretty much the gold standard for ensuring transparency and accountability in vote counting.

 

[Richard White]

I think it's a point of pride for Elections Canada that they have always hand-counted every single ballot. They read every vote out loud, and scrutineers from the parties are allowed to ask to see the ballots to make sure the counter has counted it right. At the end of the box of ballots, someone else validates that the box is empty. Pretty much the gold standard for ensuring transparency and accountability in vote counting.

That I can understand although at some point somethings gotta give.

Either you electrify the ballots or you limit the number of candidates (which is unconstitutional)

 

[Admiral Beez]

That I can understand although at some point somethings gotta give.

Either you electrify the ballots or you limit the number of candidates (which is unconstitutional)

Don't let the exceptions set the rule. If you need more counters, get them.

The only hanging chads I want to hear about are in the village.

 

[adma]

That I can understand although at some point somethings gotta give.

Either you electrify the ballots or you limit the number of candidates (which is unconstitutional)

There are other means in place, real or potential, to limit nuisance cases like the Longest Ballot types.

One other advantage of Elections Canada's "old school" methods (besides being immune to potential bad-actor electronic tampering): a good, generous number of polling subdivisions rather than the "megapolls" which have come together w/electronic balloting in many jurisdictions. (My own polling location had *9* polls--as opposed to the single megapoll it had provincially. And from an electoral-psephology standpoint as well as a manageable-proportion tool for future campaigns, that's more satisfying.)

 

[DSCToronto]

One of my neighbours got THIS email, rather reeks of desperation to me!!

 

[afransen]

Polievre's riding of Carleton saw the highest advance turnout in the nation, at 45%

Edit to add: Elections Canada has made the extraordinary move, in light of the above, to allow vote counting to begin six hours before polls close in that riding.

The results will not be released until after polls close.

However, this should mean a fairly clear picture on the outcome in that riding in the first hour or so after the polls close.

That's probably also in part due to the stunt pulled by a pro-electoral reform group of registering 80+ candidates to make PP's riding the longest ballot in the country. That will surely hamper the count there. Maybe Elections Canada will throw an army of resources at it, but it's possible we won't see results there until very late.

 

[afransen]

I wonder what this means, beyond an enthusiastic engagement level? Are these Liberal voters eager to smash Poilievre, or diehard Cons wanting to ensure their man wins. We have no way of knowing of course, as we don't do exit polls, thank goodness. But this will be one to watch tonight! That and the erasure of the Greens and much of the NDP.

And then there's Quebec, where Radio Canada has reported on the tweet, https://ici.radio-canada.ca/rci/fr/nouvelle/2160946/trump-vote-canada-canadiens. In 2000 the Liberals won their best ever showing in post-BQ Quebec with 48% of the seats. I expect they'll win over half of Quebec's seats this time around. And every seat in Atlantic Canada.

I imagine all the parties were really emphasizing early voting there, and voters might have been more inclined to heed the call, due to the unusual ballot they have in Carlton. There will likely be long lines to vote on election day.

 

[Jonny5]

Jason Kenney is on CBC for their election night coverage?
CBC!
Oh, the irony.

 

[Jonny5]

I wonder what this means, beyond an enthusiastic engagement level? Are these Liberal voters eager to smash Poilievre, or diehard Cons wanting to ensure their man wins. We have no way of knowing of course, as we don't do exit polls, thank goodness. But this will be one to watch tonight! That and the erasure of the Greens and much of the NDP.

The riding is a mix of suburban and exurban Ottawa region towns, plus some rural areas, all known to be highly populated with federal government workers, and the word is they came out in force after Poilievre became accepted as basically planning to slash the federal government workforce DOGE-style, even if he hasn't actually said that, the perception is rampant that happens if he wins.

 

[lenaitch]

I found the official rationale. Apparently it's not just the high advance turnout, it's that it's also the riding targeted by those clowns in the Longest Ballot Committee and each ballot has 91 candidates and is as long as an adult giraffe's leg.

Fact sheet: Counting ballots in the electoral district of Carleton

Fact sheet: Counting ballots in the electoral district of Carleton

www.elections.ca

That would make sense:

A guy on another forum voted in the advanced poll in that riding and was chatting with one of the staff who said one of the problems was the number that can fit in a standard ballot box. Apparently, the boxes will hold about 100 typical ballots. This one, about 15.

I'm surprised they don't use scantron ballots in situations like this

Not currently allowed federally. I actually like our old school methods, particularly in contrast with the silliness that goes on in the US seemingly every election. It might take a little longer and require a few more temporary staff, I think it is worth it.

 

[lenaitch]

What happens if it's a 50/50 split in seat counts?

I doubt that could happen this time around since we have an odd number of ridings.

Otherwise, I'm not completely certain, but I believe the convention is the incumbent (Liberal) government would be invited to demonstrate to the GG that they somehow enjoy the confidence of the House and allowed to form a government (after backroom wrangling with either other parties or even individual members). The Speaker has nothing to do with since, at this point, a Speaker has not be elected yet.

 

[Jonny5]

I think this data from CBC on New Brunswick shows what's going to happen across the country.

 

[Jonny5]

Well here we go. Ontario and Quebec polls closing now.