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Xenophobia still alive and well in Quebec. The future of Quebec is unemployed white people.
That’s wishful thinking. Quebec is a province, or nation of small to large, family owned businesses. Those businesses and those jobs will carry on. In Ontario so many of us work for subsidiaries of US firms, but in Quebec there are far more Quebecer owned employers. They’ll be fine.
Immigrants, anglophones will move to the GTA and the rest of Ontario…
Yes, that is the intent of the new legislation. Become us, or get out. That said, AIUI, immigrants who embrace French and ditch the religious garb of their countries of origin would be welcome.
 
I personally have doubts these cases will go anywhere since their cases don't seem to be strong, but I always think it fascinating how Quebec French is defacto-considered the 'natural/supreme' language of Quebec (with the CAQ applying a salami-slicing tactic on other 'foreign' languages like English)- all while ignoring the fact that Quebeckers themselves are also colonists sharing indigenous lands- who are still playing to the dominant/dominated dynamic that has characterized modern native relationships in North America.

Likewise, the screws turn tighter on the religion side of things (IMO an inordinate amount of political energy has been wasted on this, which could have been used for something more 'useful' like extending Bill 101 to the CEGEPs):

And yes, there are people who literally police language on their own time which is how these laws actually are enforced:
 
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Quebec premier says he wants to stop people from praying in public​


"Seeing people praying in the streets, in public parks, is not something we want in Quebec," Legault said.

I think we need to take the above in context. It wasn't a statement out of thin air, it came in the context of an interview covering an issue/incident which has some folks in Quebec hot.

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I would agree that the above is disconcerting. I understand Quebecer's concerns that such behavior is an affront to an avowed secularist society and school system.
Now, is it just about a handful of teachers/students and one school? In which case this would seem like a potential over-reaction or is there evidence of this behavior being a wider issue?

Regardless, I'm not sure legislation is required, beyond what's already in place. The behavior described could result in disciplinary action against both teachers and students.
One would think that would be sufficient correction.

Yes, Quebec can be a bit xenophobic at times..........but having teachers forbid girls taking part in sports is a real action that imparts real social consequence. A single, quiet (in your head) prayer at the back of a class, like many have said before
they write an exam they forgot to study for........... ought to be no big deal; but the co-opting of a public school classroom for religious proselytization is a real concern.

Should the above require or permit gross over-reach of the law and facilitate needless and damaging discrimination? No. But I get where the sentiment arises.
 
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I think we need to take the above in context. It wasn't a statement out of thin air, it came in the context of an interview covering an issue/incident which has some folks in Quebec hot.

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I would agree that the above is disconcerting. I understand Quebecer's concerns that such behavior is an affront to an avowed secularist society and school system.
Now, is it just about a handful of teachers/students and one school? In which case this would seem like a potential over-reaction or is there evidence of this behavior being a wider issue?

Regardless, I'm not sure legislation is required, beyond what's already in place. The behavior described could result in disciplinary action against both teachers and students.
One would think that would be sufficient correction.

Yes, Quebec can be a bit xenophobic at times..........but having teachers forbid girls taking part in sports is a real action that imparts real social consequence. A single, quiet (in your head) prayer at the back of a class, like many have said before
they write an exam they forgot to study for........... ought to be no big deal; but the co-opting of a public school classroom for religious proselytization is a real concern.

Should the above require or permit gross over-reach of the law and facilitate needless and damaging discrimination? No. But I get where the sentiment arises.
I am in QC again, in some of the outer townships and would offer this point. It would seem that the current Premier is in trouble politically, at least in terms of re-election potential. This is anecdotal, but the views seem to be widespread along the south shore that he is done. (For a variety of reasons) But, the above story is an attention grabber and a potential vote getter. The south shore seems to have very strong entrenched opinions about this subject and related discourse. A strong politically position, even some action, is a positive vote getter. And far from any of us to suggest that a more moderate response might be ditched in the needs of political expediency, but there you are. And it does follow with some of the previous actions of the currrent premier.
 
I am in QC again, in some of the outer townships and would offer this point. It would seem that the current Premier is in trouble politically, at least in terms of re-election potential. This is anecdotal, but the views seem to be widespread along the south shore that he is done. (For a variety of reasons) But, the above story is an attention grabber and a potential vote getter. The south shore seems to have very strong entrenched opinions about this subject and related discourse. A strong politically position, even some action, is a positive vote getter. And far from any of us to suggest that a more moderate response might be ditched in the needs of political expediency, but there you are. And it does follow with some of the previous actions of the currrent premier.

Agreed. The PQ is surging as his potential opponent.........so to be clear, the nationalist view is not the CAQ Premier's problem..........
 
Yeah, civil liberties where never Legault's strong suit. And to put that mildly...

...that said, I am sorely tempted go over there and spend a day "praying" even though I am pretty much an atheist. >.<
 

QUEBEC — The minister responsible for immigration has justified the presentation of new legislation on the integration of immigrants by saying he wants to promote a common Quebec culture and less “ghettoization” of new arrivals.

We will be pretty clear: We are a nation, we have a culture, we have democratic values, men and women are equal. People coming here must accept that,' Jean-François Roberge said
 
Yeah, civil liberties where never Legault's strong suit. And to put that mildly...

...that said, I am sorely tempted go over there and spend a day "praying" even though I am pretty much an atheist. >.<
There is quite the cultural divide in.QC between Montreal (where I am tonight warming up) and some previous destinations ( along the north shore into Saguenay/Alma and the south shore past Sherbrooke) In Montreal and surrounding areas, it appears as if Legaults toast. Elsewhere this legislation may have more traction. I keep my ideas to myself, as it is a bit like being in Trumps rural Missouri/Iowa, the aura is strong.
 
I think I could live in Quebec well enough, once I mastered the Lingua franca. Freedom from religion can be described in Quebec as freedom from others religion - do what you want in private. I wish the US could do that, as often I want to shout at my American friends with their Judea Christian nationalism/fascism to keep it in church. As for Quebecers, put away your religious attire and accessories while employed in public service and life goes on.
 
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Students shouldn't be dressed like Ninja's in this country.

A bill tabled Thursday would prohibit anyone who works in a school or on school property from wearing a religious symbol — including a hijab or a turban — on the job. It would also forbid students and staff from wearing face coverings.

 

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