[innsertnamehere]

I took via for the first time in a while. Omg straight trash, the trains are falling apart, the seats I booked were much different from the seat layout on the selection map. This was on ottawa to Toronto corridor. Just needed to express how bad the trains are. Oh and delayed of course. Anyone going between the cities should consider the bus. It was much faster and comfortable. And from toronto to ottawa $30 for the bus. Also don't get me started o. The baggage policy of weighting and having size restrictions.

Sounds like you got the old trains - which are in their final months of service as VIA replaces them and as such understandably are in rough shape and with no incentive for VIA to invest in repairs. The new ones are much nicer.

 

[dullturtle06]

Sounds like you got the old trains - which are in their final months of service as VIA replaces them and as such understandably are in rough shape and with no incentive for VIA to invest in repairs. The new ones are much nicer.

Yes it was just so shocking. I visited Poland last month. Prior to that I was there 10 years ago. The rail investment was night and day. All intercity trains had been upgraded to modern stock. The railways have been rebuild with welded rail and concrete ties. The trains ran a consistent 160km/h or faster if you take a high-speed line. 10 years ago in poland the railways were literally falling apart and the rolling stock was in worse condition than in canada.

Just shows as the world moves forward Canada is falling behind each year. Technically canada is no longer a G7 country. We are 9th now.

 

[innsertnamehere]

Yes it was just so shocking. I visited Poland last month. Prior to that I was there 10 years ago. The rail investment was night and day. All intercity trains had been upgraded to modern stock. The railways have been rebuild with welded rail and concrete ties. The trains ran a consistent 160km/h or faster if you take a high-speed line. 10 years ago in poland the railways were literally falling apart and the rolling stock was in worse condition than in canada.

Just shows as the world moves forward Canada is falling behind each year. Technically canada is no longer a G7 country. We are 9th now.

Give it 6-12 months.

Technically there are three economies larger than ours not in the G7 - China, Russia, and India. Russia was ejected for.. obvious reasons, and it's economy is mostly propped up by artificial war-time government spending right now. China is not democratic. India is home to 35x as many people as Canada and yet has an economy only 1.8x the size.

Poland also posts a GDP per capita of less than 1/2 of Canada.

Canada is also likely to pass Italy in total GDP in the next decade or so.

 

[nfitz]

Just shows as the world moves forward Canada is falling behind each year.

Seems an odd time to say this, given that the all-new rolling stock is all constructed, if not already here.

Technically canada is no longer a G7 country. We are 9th now.

Surely 7th ... it depends if you count India as a pluralist liberal democracy, and representative government, which would make us 8th. Poland is closer to 15th.

 

[micheal_can]

Seems an odd time to say this, given that the all-new rolling stock is all constructed, if not already here.

The fact that it is being modified to run at the speeds it is supposed to run at suggests otherwise. Our passenger rail network is a joke.

 

[reaperexpress]

Yes it was just so shocking. I visited Poland last month. Prior to that I was there 10 years ago. The rail investment was night and day. All intercity trains had been upgraded to modern stock.

Via is in the process of upgrading their entire corridor fleet to modern rolling stock with excellent ride quality, solid build quality, good sound isolation and a top speed of 200 km/h.

The railways have been rebuild with welded rail and concrete ties.

Nearly the entire Via Corridor network has continuously welded rail. The only exception I'm aware of is the line from London to Kitchener. Metrolinx has already switched to using concrete ties in new construction, but I don't think CN or Via use them yet.

The trains ran a consistent 160km/h or faster if you take a high-speed line. 10 years ago in poland the railways were literally falling apart and the rolling stock was in worse condition than in canada.

In the absence of CN messing around with their crossing restrictions, trains can pretty consistently cruise at 140 km/h or faster, with fairly consistent 160 km/h running northeast of Brockville. Taking a quick scan of Poland, it appears our speed limits are roughly the same as theirs. Most mainlines in Poland have a speed limit of 160, with slowdowns to 100-150 in curves and urban areas. In the Toronto-Ottawa-Montreal triangle it's typically a limit of 153 km/h with slowdowns to 97-137 km/h in curves and urban areas.

Just shows as the world moves forward Canada is falling behind each year. Technically canada is no longer a G7 country. We are 9th now.

Yes we have a ton of problems (easily the worst Intercity rail in the G7 - orders of magnitude worse than any of the others besides the US) but let's be accurate about what the problems actually are.

 

[Bordercollie]

So if they build this Detroit link, do they need to add more capacity on the Chatham sub for more trains? And the Dundas Sub is limited to 85mph which is painful.

 

[dowlingm]

So if they build this Detroit link, do they need to add more capacity on the Chatham sub for more trains? And the Dundas Sub is limited to 85mph which is painful.

more likely that VIA just runs a longer train on an existing service if enough US passengers are connecting beyond Windsor.