J_gordo
Active Member
Meh, I disagree. Both have their pros and cons. The independent certifier actually allows us to see how close we are to service commencement, but at such a distance to 2028, having it seems irrelevant.
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Edmcowboy11
Senior Member
Sad part when I think of it, is the area where west and south meet downtown has yet to be touched. I doubt that it's as simple as adding track.
Barnaby
Senior Member
I expect that entire section of road from 102 St -107 St will be closed during construction. Waiting until fall to close off the Avenue seems fine to me given the proximity to the Saturday Downtown Market.
Habibfazil
Active Member
yeah, we're too far out at this point...
EtoV
Active Member
If the public knows what's going on, the premier might decide to randomly cancel the project if there's any delay
It's not often I feel bad for Calgary, but the green line being cancelled is a tragedy
Edmcowboy11
Senior Member
The only positive is that Edmonton is given a chance to catch up with the C-Train. Otherwise I feel bad that Calgary has received this major setback.If the public knows what's going on, the premier might decide to randomly cancel the project if there's any delay
It's not often I feel bad for Calgary, but the green line being cancelled is a tragedy
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Out of Towner
Active Member
Calgary has a leadership crisis imho.
Dreeshen said the province’s funding contribution was never a blank cheque, and called the truncated alignment approved by council on July 30 an “irresponsible waste of taxpayer dollars.”
“The province promised funding for a line servicing hundreds of thousands of Calgarians in southeast Calgary, not a stub line barely reaching out of downtown,” he wrote on X.
“Should the city change its mind and decide to build a Green Line that serves the needs of Calgary commuters, our provincial contribution remains on the table.
While council also expressed interest in transferring the Green Line’s management and financial risk to the Alberta government, Smith insisted the province has no intention of taking over the project.
“We want to be partners but we don’t want to take over the transit system,” she said. “We want to be able to fund a Green Line that was originally pitched to us, going out to Seton.
“It has to be integrated into Calgary city transit.”
Dreeshen said the province’s funding contribution was never a blank cheque, and called the truncated alignment approved by council on July 30 an “irresponsible waste of taxpayer dollars.”
“The province promised funding for a line servicing hundreds of thousands of Calgarians in southeast Calgary, not a stub line barely reaching out of downtown,” he wrote on X.
“Should the city change its mind and decide to build a Green Line that serves the needs of Calgary commuters, our provincial contribution remains on the table.
While council also expressed interest in transferring the Green Line’s management and financial risk to the Alberta government, Smith insisted the province has no intention of taking over the project.
“We want to be partners but we don’t want to take over the transit system,” she said. “We want to be able to fund a Green Line that was originally pitched to us, going out to Seton.
“It has to be integrated into Calgary city transit.”
Didama
Active Member
The mess in Calgary can be partially blamed on lots of different people/entities. But the cancellation is square on the UCP.... there would have been a better option. $2.1b down the drain for absolutely nothing is just a travesty. And whatever route 'Frat Boy Dreeshen' dreams up will not go downtown and likely cost just as much, or more. Poor Calgary indeed
dkazzed
Active Member
How much of the Green Line could they have gotten finished for $6.2 billion had they started in 2019 or even earlier? When were they shovel ready? This is a failure from Kenney to shelve the line, but could Notley's government have provided provincial funding earlier than election year and made sure the line was built?
Airboy
Senior Member
I wouldn't put it past the UCP to cut funding for the Capital line south extension.
Out of Towner
Active Member
The Calgary Herald has an article documenting how their green line went off the rails. It goes back well over a decade and it's obvious that Calgary city council never had a clear idea of what the objective was. It started as a bus route, morphed into a LRT project going south, then north, then south again, then underground downtown, and in the mean time the cost kept escalating and the length of the line kept getting shorter and not servicing the people that it was originally intended to. Finally, the Province said enough is enough and pulled their funding and told the city to build it themselves which the city cannot do on its budget. A story of champagne tastes on a beer budget.
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Tropical
Active Member
Highly doubtful - but within the bell curve of possibilities.
Out of Towner
Active Member
If the Capital line south extension terminates at the most expensive high rise condo community in the city with an expensive underground station quickly shuttling its residents downtown then expect funding for the Capital line to be cut too.
Barnaby
Senior Member
The Capital Line South isn't one of the worst designed LRT lines in Canada. Neither is the Valley Line, frankly.
BASE
Active Member
Might not be a popular opinion but I do think it's fair for partners to examine their participation in a project when the costs and scope alter drastically. Fair to say the capital line extension removed the elevated station at Ellerslie but this was to preserve a budget and arguably a much more minor change than what the green line saw.