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New left and right turn restrictions on Bathurst at all major intersections would do so much to improve transit. The countless times I've been on a packed streetcar stuck behind one driver trying to make a left turn. It's shocking it's taken the city this long to get around to fixing what should be a pretty straight forward problem to solve.
There is a challenge in implementing these restrictions. They cannot restrict all streets as there is no way to travel around without making a 5km detour. As you can see they are restricting northbound lefts to Davenport and removing the restriction for lefts to Dupont. This would actually make it worst for congestion as Dupont is more congested than Davenport. Dupont doesn't have a left restriction to Christie which means all the traffic backs up to Bathurst. If they restrict both roads, all the traffic will spill on to residential streets. When people have enough of this, they just ignore the restrictions.

Kennedy has become very congested since they introduced the SRT bus lanes but those lanes get high transit utilizations, which is worth it. When they do this for Bathurst, people will question when there's only 2 scheduled bus on these lanes from Bloor to Eglinton each direction at any given time. That's the current service level. Drivers will see this when they are stuck in traffic for half an hour and only see 3-4 buses pass them. I also expect many violation as ubereats driver have a tendency to delivery their food illegally as they barely make any money and would need to save time during deliveries.
 

The battle for a bus lane: Why rapid transit on this Toronto main street is sparking backlash​


Local businesses say a proposed dedicated bus lane would threaten their livelihoods, while city councillors and many transit riders want to see improved bus times.

From https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/the-battle-for-a-bus-lane-why-rapid-transit-on-this-toronto-main-street-is/article_34728566-dc4a-436d-9e84-9494dc04d35f.html

Nothing can convince Davina Winer that dedicated bus lanes on Bathurst Street are worth it. To her, they feel like an existential threat, to her business and the local community.''

The women’s clothing store Winer owns sits just south of Dupont and Bathurst streets. Some of the customers she relies on come from out of town or have accessibility needs. They need the kind of on-street parking that could be taken out and replaced with a priority bus lane as part of the city’s RapidTO project.

“Nobody wants any traffic snarl ups, but we don’t actually have that issue here,” Winer said, “They’re just taking away our parking.”

What would usually be an uncontroversial push for better TTC service and better transit in Toronto has become a battle over traffic data, public consultation and a threat of legal action, one that is also playing out similarly on Dufferin street.

There are transit riders and city councillors who want the bus lanes built to help move buses quicker, lure more riders onto public transit to ease congestion, and to prepare the city for an influx of tourists and commuters ahead of the 2026 FIFA World Cup.

Winer, like other business owners who have rallied against proposed bus lanes on Bathurst are adamant they aren’t against transit, but are instead concerned about what the lanes will do to their businesses and the neighbourhood. They say parking on their stretch of Bathurst is a necessity, claim that the city has rushed through the process and say they are even exploring legal options to put a stop to the red paint that could soon claim a lane of traffic.

The new dedicated bus routes are part of a proposed expansion of the city’s RapidTO bus lane program onto Dufferin Street (from Dufferin Gate to Eglinton Avenue West) and on Bathurst Street (for buses and streetcars, from Lake Shore Boulevard to Eglinton Avenue West). The proposed lanes were approved by the TTC board with the caveat that they could be changed depending on public consultations. Three public consultations (two in-person and one virtual) for the Bathurst street bus lanes were conducted this week and a public survey will remain open until May 26. The proposal still needs to go through city council before the routes are installed.

The plans for these new dedicated lanes come as Toronto commuters continue to struggle with traffic — this city ranked as having the eighth worst traffic in North America, according to a 2024 TomTom report. Buses, as a consequence, have been bogged down in those traffic jams. The average speed of Toronto buses has steadily declined since 2013, from an average of 20 km/h to 17.2 km/h in 2024, data from the TTC shows.

The average speed of buses on Bathurst, according to the TTC, is 13 km/h, meaning riding transit right now takes up to 75 per cent longer than driving for the more than 35,000 riders who take either the Bathurst bus or streetcar on an average weekday.

The city says bus lanes on Bathurst Street would necessitate the removal of 138 on-street paid parking spaces, but would save up to seven minutes per trip during peak hours, making the journey from Eglinton Avenue to Bloor Street in about 17 to 19 minutes, as well as increasing reliability and ridership. Accessible parking, the city adds, will be maintained.

Brad McMullen, owner of the grocery store Summerhill Market, which has a location on Bathurst Street near Bloor Street, doesn’t believe the city’s statistics and is so skeptical that he’s hired an engineer to conduct an independent analysis of the traffic impacts and says he is exploring his legal options to see if he can slow down the approval process for the bus lanes.

“All my staff all come to my work by TTC and I have 500 employees and we all use the TTC ... and we want a more robust transit system,” said a frustrated McMullen. “It’s just such an aggressive move here from the TTC, and I guess the city, whoever’s behind it.”

“They haven’t listened to us, and I don’t think they intend on listening to us.”

Even some who are supportive of the lanes don’t see them as the perfect solution, but rather as an urgent answer to the city’s growing transit needs.
The city is playing catch-up after decades of underfunding transit expansion, said Ian Chamandy, who lives just off Bathurst Street and St. Clair Avenue.

“We’re in a position where we have to resort to desperate measures, like shutting down one lane on a major artery like Bathurst so that only transit can go on. … Yeah, it sucks. Yeah, it’s going to hurt. But what’s the alternative?” asked Chamandy, who drives, bikes and takes transit to get around the city.

“The only things left are bad decisions.”
 
August Puranauth, an organizer for the transit advocacy organization TTCriders, has been canvassing near Bathurst station, hearing from transit riders who sorely want faster and more frequent buses.

The red paint needed for bus lanes is a quick fix to bus service issues, they said, versus waiting for years (or over a decade in the case of the Eglinton LRT) for transit infrastructure to be built.

“People are frustrated with how crowded and slow transit is on Dufferin and Bathurst, and these are long overdue. It’s been called for years by advocates and riders,” Puranauth said.

McMullen said he would be more open to the lanes if they aren’t implemented all day, but just during rush hour. Winer, also, wants the city to find a way to keep her on-street parking spots if the lanes are implemented. Otherwise, they both said, the bus lanes could spell doom for their businesses.

And while local city councillors are open to discussion and compromise, it can only go so far.

There are nuances in this debate, says Coun. Josh Matlow, whose ward includes Bathurst street, from just north of Dupont Street all the way up to Eglinton Avenue.

“I think what’s really important is to, first of all, understand their concerns. And then, where somebody’s factually wrong, you don’t capitulate to that. … But where there are reasonable concerns that can be addressed, you work on that.”

Matlow said he has his own concerns about how cars will make left turns and added that city staff need to address residents’ concerns before city council moves ahead with the dedicated bus lanes.

He said he shares the cynicism people have about how the TTC and the city have handled city-building projects in the past, like the King Street transit’s priority corridor or the snow-clearing debacle from the winter.

”(City staff) do a lot of things right, but they don’t do everything right,” Matlow said. “And that’s why, the debate, the discussion shouldn’t just be about whether or not we should make transit faster, it’s about how it’s done.”

Dianne Saxe, the councillor for Winer and McMullen’s ward, said it will be difficult to accommodate what the businesses are seeking.

Bathurst is a heavily used route, Saxe said, one that has boardings as early as 6 a.m. and as late as 10 p.m. — meaning the lanes would be in use nearly all hours of the day. And having only partial lanes would be more difficult to enforce, she said, as drivers would have to learn when they are allowed to drive in the red, dedicated bus lanes.

“What research shows really clearly is that it often happens that business owners dramatically overestimate the amount of their business that comes from people in cars, and dramatically underestimate the amount that comes to people who walk in or cycle or take transit,” Saxe said, pointing to studies that have come out of the installation of the Bloor street bike lanes.Saxe’s argument is backed up by the science, U of T civil engineering professor Eric Miller said.

He pointed to a 2019 study that looked at the implementation of the Bloor street bike lanes, where 136 on-street parking spots were removed. That study showed monthly customer spending and the number of customers to storefronts on Bloor increased after the bike lanes were put in place.

It comes down to execution, Miller said, and taking full advantage of the benefits provided when taking over a lane of traffic to get transit moving.

“It’s a win for cars as well,” Miller added. “The big problem with on-street parking is you have this stationary hunk of metal that is effectively taking away much of your lane.”

The RapidTO plans have been in the works for years, Saxe said, and the complaints are simultaneous. Some, from transit advocates who think these are long overdue, and that city hall has taken too long to get them painted, and others who say the city is moving too fast.

“We need (the bus lanes). We need them badly,” Saxe said. “And we have to do everything we possibly can to minimize the pain for the small number of people who are really adversely affected. That’s my focus.”

Meanwhile, Winer, made her final plea.

“I, as a transit rider, don’t have any desire for a bus lane,” she said. “When I first entered this community, when I drove up Bathurst street, there was crap on both sides. It was a lot of darkened doorways. And now they’re lit and they’re lively. Let’s keep it that way.”
 
A useful dose of realism from Steve Munro.

Something I keep seeing in comment sections on posts about the bus lanes, and in a comment on Steve's blog, is how it seems unfair/unreasonable for the city to take away people's overnight parking. There is no overnight parking permitted on Bathurst or Dufferin. (don't take my word for it, here's transportation services')
 
Something I keep seeing in comment sections on posts about the bus lanes, and in a comment on Steve's blog, is how it seems unfair/unreasonable for the city to take away people's overnight parking. There is no overnight parking permitted on Bathurst or Dufferin. (don't take my word for it, here's transportation services')
Overnight parking is allowed on both streets. What's not allowed is parking for more than 3 hours overnight.

There is at least one block of Bathurst that does have permit parking - but that's the exception, not the rule.
 
Overnight parking is allowed on both streets. What's not allowed is parking for more than 3 hours overnight.

There is at least one block of Bathurst that does have permit parking - but that's the exception, not the rule.
I don't believe for one second that anyone who's in these comment sections complaining about the bus lanes in the context of overnight parking is doing it with the context that it's limited to 3 hours. Come on.
 
I don't believe for one second that anyone who's in these comment sections complaining about the bus lanes in the context of overnight parking is doing it with the context that it's limited to 3 hours. Come on.
I don't believe that they understand that they've always been breaking the law. As did I when I used to park on Gerrard with a permit that only applied to the side streets.

Because everyone else did it too, and no one ever got ticketed. I've occasionally heard of people on Gerrard getting ticketed overnight without a permit - not not those with permits - who are very good to move every morning by 7 AM westbound.
 
Overnight parking is allowed on both streets. What's not allowed is parking for more than 3 hours overnight.

There is at least one block of Bathurst that does have permit parking - but that's the exception, not the rule.

Do you mean Dufferin? From what I see on the city's website Bathurst does not have any in the area being studied.

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It is mentioned on the slide, but it's not anywhere on the map legend.
 
Something I keep seeing in comment sections on posts about the bus lanes, and in a comment on Steve's blog, is how it seems unfair/unreasonable for the city to take away people's overnight parking. There is no overnight parking permitted on Bathurst or Dufferin. (don't take my word for it, here's transportation services')
Something that could alleviate this is to simply not have any on-street parking on any streetcar route. :)
 
Something that could alleviate this is to simply not have any on-street parking on any streetcar route. :)
Along with no on-street parking in the downtown. Except for "what is 'downtown'"?

Have Green P parking available as part of the mixed-use buildings. Revenue shared between the condo building and the City of Toronto. Don't expect to find a "free" on-street parking, period. (Also put to an end to "free parking" at suburban malls.)
 
Well, whenever I think about "downtown" congestion pricing I think about Parkside, Bloor, Don Valley as the boundaries... 😇
I would have to include Broadview Avenue to be part of the "Don Valley", since drivers end up using Broadview Avenue whenever the Don Valley Parkway is closed.
 
I would have to include Broadview Avenue to be part of the "Don Valley", since drivers end up using Broadview Avenue whenever the Don Valley Parkway is closed.
Drivers use Coxwell when the DVP is closed. There are limits, and the Don is a good natural one. Parkside is a bit far west, but hard to say where it ebbs out. Dufferin? A bit further west?

I wouldn't call Lansdowne and Queen downtown.
 

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