Undead
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drum118
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Spadina streetcars returning to route from Sunday
Mar. 28, 2025
Starting Sun., Mar. 30 the TTC is restoring 510 Spadina and 310 Spadina Night streetcar service between Spadina Station and Union Station, following completion of critical track renewal and modernization of the overhead power network along Spadina Ave.
510 Spadina streetcars will run every five minutes on weekdays from the morning rush through to the evening, and every nine minutes in the early morning and late evening periods. On weekends, 510 Spadina streetcars will arrive every four to six minutes, morning to evening, and every 10 to 15 minutes in the early mornings and late evenings. 310 Spadina Night will operate every 20 minutes, seven days a week.
The 510 Spadina bus replacement service implemented last June will end, with streetcars serving stops on the Spadina Ave. streetcar right-of-way once again.
The completed infrastructure work included upgrades to the overhead electrical system along the Spadina streetcar right-of-way between King St. and Queens Quay, and from College St. to Spadina Station. The TTC also carried out track renewal work at Spadina Station, along with enabling works for a future platform extension.
509 Harbourfront changes due to construction
Also starting this Sunday, the TTC is suspending the 509 Harbourfront streetcar service between Union Station and Spadina Ave. (Queen’s Quay Loop). Customers who usually ride the 509 Harbourfront can instead board any 510A Spadina streetcar. Those travelling between Spadina Ave. and Exhibition Loop can transfer to a 509B Harbourfront replacement bus to continue their journey.
The temporary suspension is to accommodate work underway to replace a 105-year-old watermain, along with streetcar track renewal, at the intersection of Bathurst St., Lakeshore Blvd. W. and Fleet St.
Work is being carried out in phases to avoid a full closure of the intersection. Details of traffic and pedestrian impacts are available at https://www.toronto.ca/community-pe...urst-street-lake-shore-boulevard-construction.
Construction is expected to be completed by the end of June 2025. Full details of the service adjustments are available at www.ttc.ca/BathurstLakeshore. Customers are also encouraged to follow @TTCNotices on X or sign up for eAlerts.
Mar. 28, 2025
Starting Sun., Mar. 30 the TTC is restoring 510 Spadina and 310 Spadina Night streetcar service between Spadina Station and Union Station, following completion of critical track renewal and modernization of the overhead power network along Spadina Ave.
510 Spadina streetcars will run every five minutes on weekdays from the morning rush through to the evening, and every nine minutes in the early morning and late evening periods. On weekends, 510 Spadina streetcars will arrive every four to six minutes, morning to evening, and every 10 to 15 minutes in the early mornings and late evenings. 310 Spadina Night will operate every 20 minutes, seven days a week.
The 510 Spadina bus replacement service implemented last June will end, with streetcars serving stops on the Spadina Ave. streetcar right-of-way once again.
The completed infrastructure work included upgrades to the overhead electrical system along the Spadina streetcar right-of-way between King St. and Queens Quay, and from College St. to Spadina Station. The TTC also carried out track renewal work at Spadina Station, along with enabling works for a future platform extension.
509 Harbourfront changes due to construction
Also starting this Sunday, the TTC is suspending the 509 Harbourfront streetcar service between Union Station and Spadina Ave. (Queen’s Quay Loop). Customers who usually ride the 509 Harbourfront can instead board any 510A Spadina streetcar. Those travelling between Spadina Ave. and Exhibition Loop can transfer to a 509B Harbourfront replacement bus to continue their journey.
The temporary suspension is to accommodate work underway to replace a 105-year-old watermain, along with streetcar track renewal, at the intersection of Bathurst St., Lakeshore Blvd. W. and Fleet St.
Work is being carried out in phases to avoid a full closure of the intersection. Details of traffic and pedestrian impacts are available at https://www.toronto.ca/community-pe...urst-street-lake-shore-boulevard-construction.
Construction is expected to be completed by the end of June 2025. Full details of the service adjustments are available at www.ttc.ca/BathurstLakeshore. Customers are also encouraged to follow @TTCNotices on X or sign up for eAlerts.
81-717
Active Member
On Wednesday what was initially supposed to be a 6–7 minute gap at St. George nb first turned into a 10+ minute gap, then when it finally got there it got held up by transit ctrl (despite the previous train already being past Eg. W.), then transit ctrl instructed to turn back sb from St. G. This was the resulting gap (at least till some sb trains were apparently turned back nb further up the line to fill in the gap):
Don't worry, having wider doorways would prevent this, they said. /s
Amare
Senior Member
Transit control seems to be pretty lost these days in general.
I had a great experience recently where I was on a northbound train just approaching Eglinton at rush hour, and the driver advised us that the train would be short-turning going southbound at Eglinton. We sat there for a good ~7 mins without moving, while trains were continuing going in the opposite direction. The drive came back on the PA after 7 mins and said "well it looks like transit control changed their mind, we'll be continuing northbound after Eglinton".
Needless to say I already missed my bus connection and had to wait an extra 20 mins because of that stupidity.
And that's far from the only incident of stupid i've seen going on.
Richard White
Senior Member
Here's a weird one for you. I'm halfway in between VP and Warden heading east at the spot marked on the map.
Due to a delay at Warden the operator suggested transit control could reverse back to VP on the EB track
Didn't know that was possible.
Due to a delay at Warden the operator suggested transit control could reverse back to VP on the EB track
Didn't know that was possible.
Northern Light
Superstar
You've lived in the east end for ages....
You didn't know there was a cross-over just east of VP?
Cross - over above.......you can see where the middle btw the two track disappears.....that's it..just east of the station which has a green roof.
Close-up:
Richard White
Senior Member
Where I was, was well east of the crossover.
Northern Light
Superstar
I got that................but....you know trains can run in the opposite direction and have cabs at both ends............
So.....help me with why this surprised you?
Richard White
Senior Member
I wasn't aware that the signals were set up for bidirectional operations.
That's what surprised me
drum118
Superstar
It would be control by dispatch with the train moving slowly backward either to the crossover to the westbound track or to the station on the eastbound. There are no signals for westbound on the eastbound track.
Kyle Campbell
Senior Member
Really? Isn't that rather unusual? Single track operations aren't uncommon in most systems during maintenance and other events. I'm sure I saw reverse direction signals in the tunnel from stations on the YSSE
Edit: You can see reverse direction signals in this video. Note that the blocks are much longer in the reverse direction, crossover to crossover, because you obviously won't be running trains as closely together in single track operations
Although in this case you'd probably need dispatch if two trains were already in the larger reverse block on the eastbound track
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smallspy
Senior Member
The signals there aren't set up for bidirectional operation.
I'm a little bit surprised about what dispatch is telling the crew there as well. The train would trip against the back of the second signal that they see.
There is a very short bit of bidirectional signalling around the crossovers. But it only extends for the length of one train.
And it doesn't guard against the whole section between the interlockings - that part of the system is not set up like that.
Dan
Northern Light
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Richard White
Senior Member
Likely because of the wye junction below.
Keep in mind that the tracks go Southwest from Bay and bypass St George.