[81-717]

What do you think supports the rails?

That weight and those forces need to go somewhere. They don't just disappear into the rail, ties, trackbed, etc. This is less of an issue in the tunnels, but may be a serious issue at things like bridges. Plus, not all of the "tunnels" are actually tunnels.

Dan

I do realize the rails are supported by the trackbed, which in turn is supported by what's underneath it, but my question was regarding what's not under (since you did say "around and underneath the trains"), and (as far as I know) doesn't need to support the weight of the train, i.e. platforms, walls, ceilings, etc.

 

[allengeorge]

Partial subway closure on Line 2 could last 'a few days' after fire, TTC says

The TTC says some subway riders might need to plan for travel disruptions over the next few days as the transit agency works to repair damage caused by a fire on a stretch of Line 2.

www.cp24.com

There was a fire yesterday which has caused extensive damage, causing subway service to be suspended between Kipling and Jane with no ETA for resumption.

 

[Richard White]

Partial subway closure on Line 2 could last 'a few days' after fire, TTC says

The TTC says some subway riders might need to plan for travel disruptions over the next few days as the transit agency works to repair damage caused by a fire on a stretch of Line 2.

www.cp24.com

There was a fire yesterday which has caused extensive damage, causing subway service to be suspended between Kipling and Jane with no ETA for resumption.

Oddly enough I had just pass through there before it happened.

I arrived at Dundas West from Kipling (around 10 minutes apart) and didn't notice any issues.

I'm actually quite lucky as I was coming from Mississauga

 

[Richard White]

Partial subway closure on Line 2 could last 'a few days' after fire, TTC says

The TTC says some subway riders might need to plan for travel disruptions over the next few days as the transit agency works to repair damage caused by a fire on a stretch of Line 2.

www.cp24.com

There was a fire yesterday which has caused extensive damage, causing subway service to be suspended between Kipling and Jane with no ETA for resumption.

Juat saw this on Reddit but cannot verify it.

@smallspy can you verify it?

https://www.reddit.com/r/TTC/s/EcgSIUkY0B

 

[Coolibop]

Here's a video of the fire for you couch investigators

https://www.reddit.com/r/TTC/s/hLjMbk6ck9

Edit: it is now a suspected arson per tps.

Police investigation arson at Islington Station, fire repairs to impact portion of subway service this weekend

TTC service on the Bloor-Danforth Line 2 will remain suspended for the entire weekend and possibly into next week as repairs are made

toronto.citynews.ca

 

[Towered]

No wonder traffic was even more horrible than usual yesterday evening...

 

[allengeorge]

Wait - what? The article claims the police were not treating it as suspicious. Were there updates following the article?

 

[Coolibop]

Wait - what? The article claims the police were not treating it as suspicious. Were there updates following the article?

Correct, they updated the article to reflect:

A source tells 680 NewsRadio Toronto that the fire was deliberately set. However, a police spokesperson said later that that authorities are not treating this incident as suspicious and are not actively investigating.

 

[chrisw]

Line 2 Bloor-Danforth: No service between St George and Woodbine due to police activity.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1783891149406539994

 

[Richard White]

Line 2 Bloor-Danforth: No service between St George and Woodbine due to police activity.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1783891149406539994

Indeed.

I'm currently at Runnymede walking back to work.

I figure it's easier than waiting for or taking the subway between here and High Park.

 

[ARG1]

An admirable sentiment, but it's not about that. I am very much a believer in not catering to the geographically stupid. The problem is that keeping an outdated station name is also stupid. What is the point of a station name if it's inaccurate, even if it is entirely reasonable to expect that people behave like adults and do research on the location they are going to beforehand? At that point you might as well call your station Narnia, Moria, or Island of Sodor.

Ask New York City why they have a subway station called "High Street" on the A/C lines, despite the fact that "High Street" hasn't existed in half a century. Simply put, most people are used to the station being called that and don't want it to change.

 

[Richard White]

Ask New York City why they have a subway station called "High Street" on the A/C lines, despite the fact that "High Street" hasn't existed in half a century. Simply put, most people are used to the station being called that and don't want it to change.

The TTC has a way with station names.

Do remember that Main Street station got it's name because the TTC did not want to confuse anyone into thinking it was their "Main Station".

 

[ARG1]

If that is a remotely accurate figure, that is a) STAGGERING and b) yet another very strong argument for not pointlessly renaming stations and renumbering routes for various misguided political and new urbanist notions.

London is currently going through the project of separating and naming the various London Overground routes, and the whole project costs $4M for much of the same reason, needing to redesign/reprint maps, change around signage, etc. The Extra $3M there simply comes from the fact that they're renaming entire lines which means that they have to replace station signage on all stations of the Overground rather than just Pioneer Village and its neighbouring stations. All of this is to say that the $1M cost is in line with what other anglosphere countries are paying for such commodities.

But is there any instance ever of a rapid transit station anywhere in the world continuing to bear the name of a landmark even after it was renamed or removed? If the station was called Black Creek Village they'd be able to get away with it, but there is no getting around Pioneer Village. Hopefully this will be a lesson to be much smarter about choosing station names.

Main Street - Science World station in Vancouver kept its name since the opening of Science World in 1990, despite the fact that in 2005 it was acquired by Telus and renamed to "Telus World of Science". Granted its not much of an issue today since Telus dropped its sponsorship in 2020 with the attraction now called "Science World" again, but its definitely not uncommon for cities to refer to landmarks by some standard name regardless of sponsor changes or name changes. You sometimes also see this with sports stadiums and arenas where stations will be called something generic like "Stadium" station irrespective of whatever branding or sponsorship that stadium.

In some cases its entirely political. When Washington Nation Airport was renamed to "Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport" in 1998, it wasn't until 3 years later that the DC Metro changed the station name to reflect that, simply because the Republicans in power threatened to cut funding to the system if they didn't make the name change.

 

[Richard White]

Apparently there is an SIU investigation at Sherbourne Station.

My understanding is that police were trying to apprehend someone who then rendered themselves unconscious. As a result, the SIU is involved.

 

[Northern Light]

Line 2 Bloor-Danforth: No service between St George and Woodbine due to police activity.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1783891149406539994

What the @$##

Shut down 1/2 of Line 2 for 'police activity'???

Found the reason

Man jumps on TTC tracks at Sherbourne station fleeing from police after allegedly assaulting a woman

A male suspect has been taken to hospital after jumping onto the subway tracks at Sherbourne station while allegedly fleeing from police. Police were called to the station around 12 p.m. on Friday for reports of an assault. It is alleged a man was assaulting a woman on subway platform. He fled...

toronto.citynews.ca

That person has been removed from track level, but the service is still shut down. I am very perplexed, we don't need to CSI the track level, look at the cameras, talk to witnesses.

I'll grant I lack complete info here, but would not the be the first time this week we've had something similar (over-reaction closure)

****

As a side note, this illustrates the challenge of far too few crossovers on Line 2.

There needs to be one downtown east of St. George.

The one they have at Chester should work, but I gather the centre track is out of service (helpful).

They need one at Main, somehow, because there are so many bus routes running out of Main and a streetcar, The oversight in not building one w/the station was enormous.

They also need another in the west end somewhere.