suspenderpianoman
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New poster-sized maps waiting for Sunday's installation visible in the collector booth at Keele today:
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JasonParis
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I'll take one for my condo please.
Monarch Butterfly
Superstar
Check the TTC shop for updates at https://www.ttcshop.ca/
MisterF
Senior Member
Quote from the Line 5 thread
Minor criticism - the limited service GO lines like Richmond Hill should probably be shown as a separate category. Metrolinx has made diagrams that do this before.
Nice to see a Toronto transit diagram done properly. Hint hint, TTC.
Minor criticism - the limited service GO lines like Richmond Hill should probably be shown as a separate category. Metrolinx has made diagrams that do this before.
futurebound
New Member
I honestly don't understand why MX gets so much shit for their wayfinding standards. Implement them across all transit agencies in the GTA now.
picard102
Senior Member
What is this in comparison too?
Amare
Senior Member
Because if you go to that very same station, you'll find the wayfinding (if you're lucky to find them easily) for the individual bus routes at the bus bays to be laughably pathetic.
The wayfinding in this photo here is very good yes, but there are still wide ranging cases where Metrolinx wayfinding is pathetic.
Mihairokov
Senior Member
person who says WAYFINDMOGGING
T3G
Senior Member
"Metrolinx gets a lot of criticism (rightfully so), but the state of transit in Toronto and the Golden Horseshoe would be objectively worse without it."
Is this satire? If you gave the running of the GO system to a bunch of bad tempered high school interns you'd get a more competently run organization than what we currently have. Let's not sit here and pretend that running a transit system is such a highly difficult, skilled operation requiring decades of training that we have to give the bumbling imbeciles at Metrolinx, who have utterly failed on the maintenance front for both trains and buses, credit for anything. Next time my bus is cancelled and I have to wait 2 - 4 hours for the next one, I'll remember how much objectively better off I am than I would be if someone halfway intelligent was heading their operation, instead. And that's before we get into their inability to execute new construction projects in anything resembling a reasonable timeframe, either. The Lord preserve us from apologists like this.
Is this satire? If you gave the running of the GO system to a bunch of bad tempered high school interns you'd get a more competently run organization than what we currently have. Let's not sit here and pretend that running a transit system is such a highly difficult, skilled operation requiring decades of training that we have to give the bumbling imbeciles at Metrolinx, who have utterly failed on the maintenance front for both trains and buses, credit for anything. Next time my bus is cancelled and I have to wait 2 - 4 hours for the next one, I'll remember how much objectively better off I am than I would be if someone halfway intelligent was heading their operation, instead. And that's before we get into their inability to execute new construction projects in anything resembling a reasonable timeframe, either. The Lord preserve us from apologists like this.
futurebound
New Member
The standard itself is very good; they just need to actually follow it. I haven't been to the station, but these should have been put on top of every bus bay door, along with good route diagrams and schedules.
"Interior Bus Bay ID signs are located within terminal buildings, typically above doorways adjacent to bus bays."
It's just a matter of following and implementing the standard.
Monarch Butterfly
Superstar
In addition to just "above" the doorway, shouldn't they be at right-angle to the doorway. That way as you are inside walking along you can see the doorway you are aiming for.
11th
Senior Member
The way they want is for you to look for the bus bay number, not the route number. The bus bay should be numbered chronologically (which is not done so for route numbers in any bus terminals that I know of). You don't need to know what comes after bus bay 1 and etc. They can add a bus terminal layout diagram for those who prefer a more visual presentation.
As for regular riders, they already know where to go without looking for the bus bay number.
nottoban
New Member
I agree; there's a step missing: you need a buses from here map in the bus bay to help you understand which route you need and then from there you can pick the bay where your bus will arrive. I can't remember if there was a screen or even a printed map that was planned that was descoped or what happened to it but the bus terminal is set up pre-supposing you know what route you need. Diagrams for each route were added at the door to each bay recently but in theory you would have to look at all of them to confirm which bay you needed. There should be a consolidated map like the one in the photo to support that decision when you first arrive at the terminal
nightstreak
Senior Member
Pardon me if this has been discussed but has the TTC adopted the Ⓣ as the rapid transit designation? I believe this started with Finch and Eglinton Crosstown, but I assumed it was the Province going alone like their grey LRT vehicles going over TTC guidelines and making their own.
From a Scarborough subway extension presentation:
From a Scarborough subway extension presentation:
Leo_Chan
Senior Member
I don't believe the TTC has any unique designs for the SSE, they are simply reusing marketing materials provided by Metrolinx.