micheal_can
Senior Member
That is why I said tool, not that it is the be all end all. It has flaws that you need to fact check things.
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mr_content
New Member
The next station is 6rees Prum, 6rees Prum station. Transfer for the Mystery Line.
micheal_can
Senior Member
I know there are lots of issues with the maps. In fact, most times it draws a picture of anything, it is horrible.However, using the text option you can get the jest of it. It is the fine details where it breaks down. So, if it was real world plan, someone would fact check it. So, the place where consultants come in would be minimal. Remember,Toronto did elect a mayor on a back of napkin Smartrack plan that was easy to poke holes in.
blaixx
Active Member
This is my re-imagining of the Hamilton LRT as a fully grade-separated, elevated, light-metro system, akin to Vancouver's Canada Line, or Montreal's REM. I made this map shortly after the Finch West LRT opened, inspired by the strong negative reception to travel times and reliability. On this route, end-to-end travel time would be about 20 minutes – at least twice as fast as the LRT alternative.
For the line, I re-routed it down Main Street instead of King because of the wider ROW and for the straighter alignment. I reduced the number of stations from 17 to 10 on the 13-km line which puts the average stop spacing at about 1.4 km. This spacing is probably wider than I'd like but I wanted to push things to the limit for this fantasy proposal.
I mostly chose to keep or drop stops based on whether or not they had a connecting north/south bus line. If I remember correctly, all of the stops I dropped do not have a connecting bus route and out of the stations I kept, only Longwood and Sherman do not.
For the line, I re-routed it down Main Street instead of King because of the wider ROW and for the straighter alignment. I reduced the number of stations from 17 to 10 on the 13-km line which puts the average stop spacing at about 1.4 km. This spacing is probably wider than I'd like but I wanted to push things to the limit for this fantasy proposal.
I mostly chose to keep or drop stops based on whether or not they had a connecting north/south bus line. If I remember correctly, all of the stops I dropped do not have a connecting bus route and out of the stations I kept, only Longwood and Sherman do not.
tsm1072
Active Member
It's an interesting proposal but I feel like results in worse overall transit and urban outcomes then the LRT. End to end travel time isn't as big of a deal as a lot of trips will only be riding the line for about half the time. With the increased stop spacing you are requiring the need to parallel bus service and adding either a bus transfer or long walk to a lot of people's trips. You also miss out of the huge benefit of removing most cars from King downtown, making the street much more pleasant.
A line like this would make a lot of sense for a North-South A-line replacement, where trip lengths would typically be longer. A fast connection from the mountain to downtown and west harbour would make a difference in travel modes and create a strong transit hub at West harbour
urbanclient
Senior Member
This is a specious argument. Nobody rides Line 1 from Vaughan to Finch, but that doesn't mean average speed isn't important. Parallel bus service is fine if your goal is rapid transit. For the LRT replacing the B-Line, the real risk is slower travel times than the bus.
The problem with Skytrain or subway in Hamilton (on Main) is the relatively low population.
Removing cars is not necessarily the goal or consequence of new rail transit, rapid or not.
Agreed, if the population (density) and transit demand grew enough in the future.