Just some observations from Warden this morning..
  • There is insufficient space for the number of buses in the rush hour
  • Some buses such as the 17 Birchmount have to wait on the street while their colleagues lay-over at the platform
  • Buses are laying over on the Southbound curb lanes of Warden Avenue
  • There is a dedicated entrance and exit at Warden Station
Previously at Warden Station, the platforms could fit 3 buses. Routes like the 102 and 17 which had branches arriving in close succession could fit comfortably in each bay while the drivers laid over. Now the platforms fit only 1 bus with no space for additional buses.

There is no dedicated unloading or staging area for buses which makes things a tad more difficult.

Drivers who have their breaks, layovers, etc have nowhere to do so other than at the platforms.

God help us if we have Plans A through F occur at the same time or if we have a Priority One at Warden. Emergency vehicles, plus shuttles is going to be a fun situation.
 
I believe @kotsy has some fabulous aerial shots of the Warden station bus bay demolition on his Flikr photo stream.. very satisfying to see!

Would be absolutely lovely if he could kindly share them here as well :)
 
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Just a few spots left
 
Do we know what the washroom situation at the new terminal will be once opened? The plans call for universal washrooms, but I'm assuming those will be single occupancy.
Do we know if there will also be regular men's and women's washrooms as well or only universal ones?

Edit: I just talked to Arjun from communications and he confirms that there will be regular washrooms on top of universal ones
 
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Here are some of my photos taken last Sunday:

 
Warden Woods is across the street from the station and features 700m of the most hostile sidewalk in existence. Even thought it's right beside a forest.

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Now the guardrail next to the woods, is not the most aesthetically endearing........but at least serves it purpose...........except..........

What it does is prevent a car that loses control from falling over a steep slope.......

This implies a perceived risk that the car will mount the sidewalk....as it would have to prior to heading down the slope. That's not for pedestrians....as something less robust would serve purpose.

So.....it occurred to no one in Transportation, that the logical place for any guardrail was between the sidewalk and the road? This would still keep cars from falling down the slope, but also keep them off the sidewalk!

If a concern remained over a pedestrian slipping and going over the slope......a post-and-paddle fence would suffice and not feel too prison-like.
 
So.....it occurred to no one in Transportation, that the logical place for any guardrail was between the sidewalk and the road? This would still keep cars from falling down the slope, but also keep them off the sidewalk!

But having the guardrail at the curb would prevent a car (i.e. emergency vehicle) from parking in the curb lane (or even on the sidewalk), opening its doors and having easy access to the sidewalk area or the wooded area.
 
But having the guardrail at the curb would prevent a car (i.e. emergency vehicle) from parking in the curb lane (or even on the sidewalk), opening its doors and having easy access to the sidewalk area or the wooded area.

Sounds fine.

In all seriousness, guardrails can come with periodic gaps that would allow for someone to cross the road or exit a vehicle, they just need to be sufficiently narrow you couldn't get a vehicle through them.
 
Now the guardrail next to the woods, is not the most aesthetically endearing........but at least serves it purpose...........except..........

What it does is prevent a car that loses control from falling over a steep slope.......

This implies a perceived risk that the car will mount the sidewalk....as it would have to prior to heading down the slope. That's not for pedestrians....as something less robust would serve purpose.

So.....it occurred to no one in Transportation, that the logical place for any guardrail was between the sidewalk and the road? This would still keep cars from falling down the slope, but also keep them off the sidewalk!

If a concern remained over a pedestrian slipping and going over the slope......a post-and-paddle fence would suffice and not feel too prison-like.
This whole intersection really has some of the most infuriating pieces of “pedestrian infrastructure” in all of Toronto. I always white knuckle grip the stroller when I have to walk from the station to the community centre across the street, being literally inches away from cars absolutely whizzing by.
 

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