[BCTed]

One other comment l will support this potential PWHL team as long as its Hamilton whatever vs Toronto Whatevers. I won't bother going to see the Rock for this very reason.

If TD Coliseum gets a team, it had better have the name Hamilton across the chest. If it ends up being Ontario or Toronto or GTA (which is not correct, but OVG refers to it all the time) or GTHA or Golden Horseshoe or Edmonton East or whatever, then just forget it.

 

[EdFitzgerald]

If TD Coliseum gets a team, it had better have the name Hamilton across the chest. If it ends up being Ontario or Toronto or GTA (which is not correct, but OVG refers to it all the time) or GTHA or Golden Horseshoe or Edmonton East or whatever, then just forget it.

There's already a team in Toronto and Ottawa, so it will be a Hamilton team. The negotiations are between the Oakview Group (TD Coliseum) and the PWHL.

 

[Civdis]

Agreed on the top tier comment. The PWHL is the best of its kind and there is a massive demographic to tap into with women's hockey.

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

There's already a team in Toronto and Ottawa, so it will be a Hamilton team. The negotiations are between the Oakview Group (TD Coliseum) and the PWHL.

Isn't Hamilton a "suburb" of Toronto?

 

[Chris R.]

Isn't Hamilton a "suburb" of Toronto?

In the same way that Toronto is a 'suburb' of Hamilton. Hamilton is its own city with its own economy, that isn't primarily residential outskirts of Toronto. Calling Hamilton a suburb of Toronto, greatly diminishes the value of Hamilton as its own place.

Travelling for example, you may say "I live in Toronto" or "Just outside of Toronto" if you lived in Mississauga, Brampton or Oakville. But living in Hamilton or Kitchener for example, one may say "I live in a city and hour outside Toronto". Certainly whoever you're speaking to has never heard of Hamilton, but saying you live in a suburb of Toronto would be odd to me, since we have our own culture, job market, education market, and downtown, even moreso than even KW region.

 

[Mihairokov]

But living in Hamilton or Kitchener for example, one may say "I live in a city and hour outside Toronto". Certainly whoever you're speaking to has never heard of Hamilton, but saying you live in a suburb of Toronto would be odd to me, since we have our own culture, job market, education market, and downtown, even moreso than even KW region.

This is why for teams competing in a North American League the Toronto moniker goes a lot further, like why the Toronto Rock play in Hamilton, or why Raptors 905 aren't called the Mississauga Raptors. Nobody knows where Hamilton is outside of Ontario, more or less. The Wild play in St. Paul but go by Minnesota, but all the Minnesota teams go by that instead of choosing Minneapolis or St. Paul.

Maybe going for a place name gives it some eventual cache, like the San Jose Sharks or Anaheim Ducks, but otherwise you're going to end up in a San Francisco 49ers instead of the Santa Clara 49ers type of situation.

Since the PWHL owns its teams directly and they do not have local owners it's ultimately up to them what they decide to call the team. As there's already a Toronto team it won't be that, but it wouldn't surprise me if Hamilton ended up being called Ontario or Golden Horseshoe instead of Hamilton. It depends on how they view their marketing and media market deliverables.

 

[Chris R.]

This is why for teams competing in a North American League the Toronto moniker goes a lot further, like why the Toronto Rock play in Hamilton, or why Raptors 905 aren't called the Mississauga Raptors. Nobody knows where Hamilton is outside of Ontario, more or less. The Wild play in St. Paul but go by Minnesota, but all the Minnesota teams go by that instead of choosing Minneapolis or St. Paul.

Maybe going for a place name gives it some eventual cache, like the San Jose Sharks or Anaheim Ducks, but otherwise you're going to end up in a San Francisco 49ers instead of the Santa Clara 49ers type of situation.

Since the PWHL owns its teams directly and they do not have local owners it's ultimately up to them what they decide to call the team. As there's already a Toronto team it won't be that, but it wouldn't surprise me if Hamilton ended up being called Ontario or Golden Horseshoe instead of Hamilton. It depends on how they view their marketing and media market deliverables.

From the rumours I've seen elsewhere, I think they'll be named after Hamilton.

 

[Yorken Bay]

This is why for teams competing in a North American League the Toronto moniker goes a lot further, like why the Toronto Rock play in Hamilton, or why Raptors 905 aren't called the Mississauga Raptors. Nobody knows where Hamilton is outside of Ontario, more or less. The Wild play in St. Paul but go by Minnesota, but all the Minnesota teams go by that instead of choosing Minneapolis or St. Paul.

Maybe going for a place name gives it some eventual cache, like the San Jose Sharks or Anaheim Ducks, but otherwise you're going to end up in a San Francisco 49ers instead of the Santa Clara 49ers type of situation.

Since the PWHL owns its teams directly and they do not have local owners it's ultimately up to them what they decide to call the team. As there's already a Toronto team it won't be that, but it wouldn't surprise me if Hamilton ended up being called Ontario or Golden Horseshoe instead of Hamilton. It depends on how they view their marketing and media market deliverables.

I don't know, I don't think the city name matters that much. I don't know of anyone that's refused to watch a game because they didn't recognize the city. To the contrary, people have refused to support the Rock because they have the wrong city name.

It's probably a "comes out in the wash" situation. If people are turned off by an unrecognizable city name, just as many are drawn in. I think of all the Euro soccer lower tier leagues and I enjoy learning about some little English town I've never heard of before.


It's kind crazy too given they don't sell out, how many more paying customers would they get?

And the NLL has a weird cross sectio of team names. Are Oshawa, Saskatchewan, Rochester and Halifax any more less recognizable then Hamilton?

 

[Mihairokov]

From the rumours I've seen elsewhere, I think they'll be named after Hamilton.

Always possible.

I don't know, I don't think the city name matters that much.

It doesn't.

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

Isn't Buffalo a "suburb" of Hamilton? Making the Buffalo Bills a Hamilton NFL team, and the Buffalo Sabres a Hamilton NHL team?

Before Buffalo Sabres vs Boston Bruins game...

 

[FF407]

They really shouldn't be called Ontario anything. People are going to think Ontario California.