Still waiting to be impressed with this development; off to a terrible start. Way long time ago, some *did* post "ummm .. it's Pinnacle". Toronto has to ask more of its architects.
 
TonyV said:
Still waiting to be impressed with this development; off to a terrible start. Way long time ago, some *did* post "ummm .. it's Pinnacle". Toronto has to ask more of its architects.
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Given HP is responsible for The Well and Artists Alley (not to mention 1BE, etc). I am more inclined to say Toronto need to demand more from its developers in this case. If you can afford to build a multi-tower complex maxing out at 95, you can do better than this mediocre, stereotypically Pinnacle "quality".

I suppose they can always impress us further by going back to P+S or gawd forbid, G+C

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The first phase will have 640 parking spots on 6 levels. And will be interconnected with future phases. How big will the entire parking structure be? 1500-2000 spaces? Massive dig so close to the water.
 
muller877 said:
The first phase will have 640 parking spots on 6 levels. And will be interconnected with future phases. How big will the entire parking structure be? 1500-2000 spaces? Massive dig so close to the water.
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So I guess the foundations are going to be excavated separately. I think it's better to dig out and finish the whole basement garage. And use two third of the parking spots for temporary city parking. A good way for the developers and the city to generate money. Till all three buildings are up and running which could take a decade.
 
GenerationLee said:
Awww man, I forgot Pinnacle were the goons behind this. Welp, at least they aren't Pemberton, and can actually make some okay buildings like Grand Park I and II *Grand Park I was the weaker designed one IMO)
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Pemberton built U Condos which I think it's safe to say is better than the 20 odd towers from the family of developers behind Pinnacle, Amacon and, Onni. Grand Park doesn't look any different from the sea of mediocre green glass towers built in the past decade.
 
I mean, yes, Pemberton can make some fair buildings, but I mean, Erin Mills has about 4 tower in the parks from their earlier master plan, and their current phase still has that reminiscent tower in the park look, except for more "modern" cladding. Idk, Pemberton can be quite the hit and miss developer, more miss IMO, and Pinnacle isn't a whole lot better.
 
My thoughts on this are similar; in regards to their architecture, Pemberton's U Condos are better than any Pinnacle, Amacon, or Onni development in the GTA so far…

but the rest of Pemberton's developments are a mixed bag: a few satisfactory projects with a whole pile of schlock. Some of their newer ones are moving in the right direction though, with some better architects hired, but U Condos still set the bar for them.

Pinnacle has a chance to do something great with the tallest tower here if they invest in it the way they should. 95 storeys tall and located right on Yonge, it will be front and centre, and will affect their reputation here for a long time to come. We have only seen rough drawings of a lesser 65-storey tower so far, not the more realistic marketing renderings, and while it's obvious nevertheless that it has been value engineered compared to what was originally promised by the early renderings, it is Hariri Pontarini, so it should still end up better than it would in most other firm's hands.

They do, however, need to pull out all the stops on the 95-storey tower: they need something to be proud of here, and make us proud too.

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