GameOnBrad said:
Lots of new machines on site and I see a sewer or water pipe...

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They are supposedly putting in 'services' for the extension of Queen's Quay but most of the pipe in your photo is for the de-watering that is going on in connection with the Hydro work.

"Waterfront Toronto is delivering development enabling infrastructure and public space in the Quayside precinct bounded by Lake Shore Boulevard to the north, Bonnycastle Street to the west, Lake Ontario to the south and the Victory Soya Mills Silos to the east under the Quayside Infrastructure and Public Realm (QIPR) project. The QIPR project will realign Parliament Street, extend Queens Quay east to the Silos, normalize the Parliament Street and Queens Quay East intersection, deliver necessary servicing connections and improve Bonnycastle Street and Small Street. The QIPR implementation will unlock development parcels that include commitments for affordable housing and deliver much needed public realm improvements to the area. As a result, there will be a realignment and lane reconfiguration of Queens Quay East, from Lower Sherbourne Street to Parliament Street."

and

" City Council direct the Executive Director, Transit Expansion to request Toronto Waterfront Revitalization Corporation (Waterfront Toronto) to undertake the following enabling works to advance the Waterfront East Light Rail Transit project, up to a cost of $5.05M, as part of Waterfront Toronto’s Quayside Infrastructure and Public Realm project:
a. construction of a duct bank on Small Street; and b. relocation of a Toronto Hydro Electric System Limited duct bank underneath Queens Quay East, west of Small Street (collectively the “Enabling Works”).
"The existing THESL duct bank runs along the southern portion of Queens Quay East, west of Small Street. This duct bank conflicts with the future WELRT alignment and is required to be relocated. The QIPR scope includes utility work along the segment of Queens Quay East where the THESL duct bank is located. The duct bank is expected to be connected to future Quayside developments. If additional connections are made to the duct bank before it is relocated, the relocation becomes more complex. Given these two factors, there are significant benefits to completing the THESL duct bank relocation as soon as possible through the utility portion of the QIPR project. A financial commitment from the City of approximately $3.1M in July 2025 is required for this scope to be added to Waterfront Toronto’s project.
 
Soil is being relocated and at least one person is on site right now, since the gate is wide up and a dump truck is waiting.

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Traffic, Pedestrian and Cycling Changes on Queens Quay East at Merchants’ Wharf Beginning as Early as May 11​



Beginning the week of May 11, Eastern Construction will implement the next phase of traffic management for the Quayside Infrastructure and Public Realm (QIPR) project.

This work will support the Queens Quay East extension and the new Parliament Street alignment and will take place between Merchants’ Wharf/Small Street and Parliament Street. These changes are expected to remain in place through December 2026.


What to expect?​



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Map showing the temporary traffic configuration on Queens Quay East at Merchants’ Wharf, including the relocated TTC bus stop, detour for the Martin Goodman Trail, and temporary cycling route.


Traffic
  • Repainting and shifting of existing traffic lanes on Parliament Street between Merchants’ Wharf and Lake Shore Boulevard East.
  • New line paintings for a temporary bi-directional bicycle lane along the northbound curb lane.
  • Installation of concrete barriers with steel railings between the vehicular and new bicycle lane to maintain safe separation.
  • The existing two westbound lanes and eastbound travel will be maintained. As eastbound traffic approaches the Lake Shore Boulevard East intersection, the roadway widens to two eastbound lanes to accommodate straight‑through, left‑turn, and right‑turn movements.
Please note that crews will complete the new lane markings work after-hours, to minimize the amount of traffic disruption

Pedestrian
  • North sidewalk along Queens Quay East between Parliament St and Bonnycastle St remains closed. Pedestrians are encouraged to use the sidewalks along Lake Shore Boulevard East and the south sidewalks on Parliament/Queens Quay East
Cyclists
  • Shifting of the Martin Goodman Trail between Merchants’ Wharf and Lake Shore Boulevard East. Cyclists will be re-routed onto the new temporary bi-directional lane, separated from traffic with concrete barriers.
  • Bike Share station relocated to Aitken Place Park.
TTC Bus Stop
  • In coordination with the TTC, the existing northbound bus stop at 11 Parliament Street will be relocated to the west side of Merchants’ Wharf on Queens Quay, slightly east of the T3 Bayside building. Temporary signage will be in place.
 
One of those things that stuck with me from doing my undergrad in civil engineering that I keep minding myself of with these projects is that making a new road is way more work than most people realise. Because you do have to do all the underground works first. Now I'm not saying we do those in the most efficient way (cus I really don't think we do) but you've gotta install sewers, gas, fibre optic cables, etc (whatever is needed) before you can build the road, and unfortunately most of those depend on private companies (e.g. Enbridge, Bell, Rogers, etc). So like, it's gonna take a frustratingly long time for the Queens Quay extension to happen. Even if at the surface, it will just look like "oh they put down some asphalt and concrete".
 
TossYourJacket said:
One of those things that stuck with me from doing my undergrad in civil engineering that I keep minding myself of with these projects is that making a new road is way more work than most people realise. Because you do have to do all the underground works first. Now I'm not saying we do those in the most efficient way (cus I really don't think we do) but you've gotta install sewers, gas, fibre optic cables, etc (whatever is needed) before you can build the road, and unfortunately most of those depend on private companies (e.g. Enbridge, Bell, Rogers, etc). So like, it's gonna take a frustratingly long time for the Queens Quay extension to happen. Even if at the surface, it will just look like "oh they put down some asphalt and concrete".
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On the flipside though, they are basically working with a clean slate. There are no buildings to tear down, nothing (surface level) needs to be moved or removed. So, that helps immensely with reducing complications and delays from teardowns.
 
GameOnBrad said:
On the flipside though, they are basically working with a clean slate. There are no buildings to tear down, nothing (surface level) needs to be moved or removed. So, that helps immensely with reducing complications and delays from teardowns.
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I am not so sure it is “virgin earth”. Were there other industrial buildings beside the silos that will have foundations to be removed?

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This from ca 1950 seems to show all the buildings were south of the proposed extension of QQE

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TossYourJacket said:
One of those things that stuck with me from doing my undergrad in civil engineering that I keep minding myself of with these projects is that making a new road is way more work than most people realise. Because you do have to do all the underground works first. Now I'm not saying we do those in the most efficient way (cus I really don't think we do) but you've gotta install sewers, gas, fibre optic cables, etc (whatever is needed) before you can build the road, and unfortunately most of those depend on private companies (e.g. Enbridge, Bell, Rogers, etc). So like, it's gonna take a frustratingly long time for the Queens Quay extension to happen. Even if at the surface, it will just look like "oh they put down some asphalt and concrete".
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Maybe I'm too dense...but I don't understand why we are so inefficient at construction. The number of times I walk by a site and there's 4 guys standing there watching 1 guy do work boggles my mind. Meanwhile, we block off lanes of traffic for this "work" for months, even years at a time and claim "costs keep going up". The industry needs a shakeup.

This project is the key example: there's literally NO work left to be done on the north side of QQE west of Small St. Think they'd give back those lanes of traffic - even after the parking lot entrance? Nope. Let the people suffer! The number of days this site was quiet over the last 6-8 months is maddening. But, let's let it go on until December....and let them ask for an extension in the fall till the spring.
 
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