As a note and being slow doing it, that ramp to TTC fare area will not fit a lot of scooters and wheelchairs and show why the whole thing should been one ramp with no stairs.

Still missing a lot of things for the new terminal that were supposed to be done now.
 
Wayfinding on the bus platform at Kipling Station is terrible. Which door is the one for which bus route? Have to walk along looking for the signs over the doors. Should have signs right angled to the bus bay doors.
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turbanplanner said:
TBH I always felt Cloverdale was more likely to get a subway than Sherway because of all the miway busses passing the mall, now that the huge terminal was built at Kipling I wonder what are the odds of any subway extension
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sixrings said:
That terminal was a mistake the day it was designed and confirmed the day it opened. We shouldn’t be committed to crap just because we recently paid for it.
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turbanplanner said:
What is bad about it? I've only used a miway bus there once?
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sixrings said:
The walk between the Mississauga bus to the subway is insane.
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The walk is bad enough (about 370 metres from the far end of the terminal - the infamous walkway from Line 2 to Line 1 at Spadina is less than 200 metres), but the big issue is that it's at Kipling.

The primary use of this terminal is for buses connecting to the 427 and Mississauga. After the subway is extended further west (and that project hasn't completely vanished from the TTC budget), the terminal becomes redundant. Though perhaps they do the same as at Islington station, and leave the MiWay terminus at Kipling for 35 years after the extension opens. :)

(though I suppose if they ever build that long-planned busway or RT up the hydro corridor to Eglinton, then it might have long-term use).

Maybe if they had a shuttle bus from the GO/MiWay terminal to the TTC station. :)
 
A line 2 westerly extension has been so unprioritized I don't see it happening anytime soon so it's good they built the terminal here. It isn't great, and it's closed half the time I need it, but it could be worse.

I do wish they'd extend the subway at least a few stops west though.
 
Dan416 said:
A line 2 westerly extension has been so unprioritized I don't see it happening anytime soon so it's good they built the terminal here. It isn't great, and it's closed half the time I need it, but it could be worse.

I do wish they'd extend the subway at least a few stops west though.
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It sure seems like dundas would be the perfect street for elevated subway but what do I know. Maybe mississaugans would be as picky as Scarborough peoples.
 
Dan416 said:
A line 2 westerly extension has been so unprioritized I don't see it happening anytime soon so it's good they built the terminal here. It isn't great, and it's closed half the time I need it, but it could be worse.

I do wish they'd extend the subway at least a few stops west though.
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If they built the extension to Cloverdale, it will replace the 2 current bus terminal, shorten bus route deadhead time and be the true Gateway as per the Big Move in 2008. Riders will get to/from the Coverdale station faster than today. TTC Kipling terminal has been undersized since day one.

You can have 3 bus levels for the Cloverdale Terminal with one for TTC, one for miWay and the Other for GO and York Region/Brampton. Kipling would be left with the 2 Kipling bus Route, 49 and 40 that will reduce the number of Bays at Cloverdale or be use for future needs.

The extension has been on the books since the 70's and has fail to get off the ground with the ward councilor been shot down 3 times as Vice Chair before coming an MPP while the Fords pushing subway in the east.. Even the new subway yard will not happen until 2040 if then.

Once Cloverdale is redeveloped along with a few other projects in the area, people will drive to Kipling than use the buses.
sixrings said:
It sure seems like dundas would be the perfect street for elevated subway but what do I know. Maybe mississaugans would be as picky as Scarborough peoples.
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To late for Dundas in Mississauga as construction starts in 2026-30 for the BRT that cannot be upgraded to an LRT. At the same time until about 2040, Dundas will only have a single lane of traffic from Confederation to a haft a mile to the east of Hurontario due to lack of street width that will increase once redevelopment of property takes place to replace the existing structures in that area.

You have no room to put in access to an elevated station at this time there. Then the elevated line is only good to Mavis Rd as there is no depends for it beyond there until 2050.

You have 2 issues for the elevated line starting with the 427 and the overpass for CP/GO corridor. Otherwise, nothing stopping having an elevated Ontario Line design on Dundas from Cloverdale new Subway station. Using TTC Kipling existing RT platform will require major redevelopment for the existing bus concours to get faregate in
 
nfitz said:
I wonder how much business a shuttle bus to the subway would get.
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Well from the way people talk on these threads Mississauga transit users never need the subway and only use the GO. Yet I agree this transfer is a nightmare and only makes a frustrating trip worse.
 
sixrings said:
Well from the way people talk on these threads Mississauga transit users never need the subway and only use the GO. Yet I agree this transfer is a nightmare and only makes a frustrating trip worse.
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An able person can handle the 7 minute walk, but for others, it could take them 15 minutes for that trip. Have to thank Hydro One who refused to put the terminal as they wanted to protect the land for future upgrade. Then thank TTC for not building the extension to Cloverdale when it should have been built with the earliest I can see is 2050 at the current rate including the new yard.

Same goes for the Dundas LRT that Hydro One did not want under their wires.

More Mississauga riders use TTC than GO.

The only time I use that terminal if I have to use 109, Dundas, 126 and on bad weather days than walk up to Dundas to catch the 3 or take TTC 49.

The amount of saving for the deadheading of all 3 system would pay a large chunk of the cost of the extension to Cloverdale as well riders travel time. It already out dated as there is no more bus bays to add new routes to it the Mississauga 135 has to stop at Renforth that is also max out as well.
 
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