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howl said:
They plan on tunneling under the both subway lines (Spadina and Yonge) using a much less intrusive method.

Regarding the timing of building the stations and tunnels, obviously you can't build them at the same time. You have to build one first then the other. One of the biggest hold ups for the station construction is they need to acquire all the land. If an owner doesn't want to sell they need to expropriate and it can take up to a year to go through that legal process. If they wanted to build the stations first we would still be waiting to start tunneling. starting the tunneling first means they will be done sooner.
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Looks like SNC will be playing a big role moving forward with the Crosstown:

http://business.financialpost.com/n...act-in-deal-that-may-be-worth-up-to-4-billion

Good to see parts of this project moving forward and being awarded - not sure I'm completely satisfied with the result.
 
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JayBeeGooner said:
Because TBMs are usually "dragged" through a station box to continue tunneling. Since the station box for the station wasn't built yet, it made more sense to lift the TBMs over the existing subway and continue tunneling to Yonge. If the TTC was building the ECLRT, it's likely the station would have been built, but Metrolinx wants the stations to be built at the same time.
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Also, the diameter of the TBM is much larger that the height needed for a poured tunnel to fit the same size subway car. By manually digging, they can place the two station platforms at a closer elevation. Saves money on depth of station, allows easier build of service access and rooms around the station tie-in, and creates (slightly) less height for transfer of passengers between levels.
 
No, they'll build it too.

It's a DBFM contract: design, build, finance, maintain. Though, in this case, they won't have complete control over the design.
 
CDL.TO said:
No, they'll build it too.

It's a DBFM contract: design, build, finance, maintain. Though, in this case, they won't have complete control over the design.
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Yeah. It seems plausible that end of this year early non-tunnel construction might start, but I'm just speculating.
 
CDL.TO said:
No, they'll build it too.

It's a DBFM contract: design, build, finance, maintain. Though, in this case, they won't have complete control over the design.
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Oh great news.

I wonder how soon construction can begin on the stations?

Also, I hope the firm isn't in control of the architectural design.
 
They are. Basic station layouts are done already, but architectural design is being done by the contractor.

That said, as part of the bid they were told to create interesting architecture so don't expect a sheppard subway 2.0. I wouldn't go expecting a Spadina subway either though, probably something in between the two.
 
"Interesting architecture" = "throw a cheap mural on the wall"

Seriously, I hope the RFP dictated what exactly "interesting architecture" means.
 
I would expect a fairly standard station design with some unique element for each station. Yes, probably closer to "throw a cheap mural on the wall".

And you know what, I'm OK with that. As long as the space is still pleasant and functional I don't think fancy architecture is that important. It's a space where you won't be spending more than a few minutes anyway.

I'll point this this image from Munich again as my prediction for what we're going to see on Eglinton. Basic box (almost no "architecture" at all), fairly simple and easy-to-maintain wall panels to add a unique element, but still bright, functional, and pleasant.
 
I'd love to see something like that in the stations.

I just don't want to see a depressing concrete walls, or the washroom architecture of the Bloor Danforth.

It's a space where you won't be spending more than a few minutes anyway.
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I don't know about that. Many people will be spending 30 minutes to an hour on the line every day. I think this deserves some half decent architecture in there.
 
A station like Bessarion station would be fine in my opinion (in terms of design) for stations like Eg & Bayview or Laird.

Or stations like Mont Royal in Montreal or 24th & Mission BART in SF.

I personally think the Spadina extension stations are way too elaborate and large to be appropriate for most stations on Eglinton. Maybe at Don Mills there could be a larger station.
 
The stations should be unique and attractive spaces with tall ceilings, interesting entrance pavilions, attractive finishes and impressive works of art. Good design makes commuting by transit more interesting and adds value to neighbourhoods.
 
TheTigerMaster said:
I don't know about that. Many people will be spending 30 minutes to an hour on the line every day. I think this deserves some half decent architecture in there.
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Fair point, but I meant within the stations themselves. I think it's more important that the vehicles offer comfort than that the stations offer great architecture because that's really where people will actually be spending their time. (New York certainly takes that philosophy to an extreme, though.)
 
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