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This entire TTC vs Metrolinx battle is incredibly embarrasing. It exemplifies how political, inempt, uncoordinated, and ineffective transit is in the GTA. A bunch of fiefdoms battling for their little line in the sand while the transit weary riders of Toronto have to pack in ever more crowded buses/subways for their long painful commute dreaming of yester year when the citizens of "the city that works" had an enviable transit service.
 
ssiguy2 said:
This entire TTC vs Metrolinx battle is incredibly embarrasing. It exemplifies how political, inempt, uncoordinated, and ineffective transit is in the GTA. A bunch of fiefdoms battling for their little line in the sand while the transit weary riders of Toronto have to pack in ever more crowded buses/subways for their long painful commute dreaming of yester year when the citizens of "the city that works" had an enviable transit service.
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What battle? In their first opportunity the TTC voted last week to roll over, and submit to Metrolinx.
 
Palma said:
Well then they are not driverless really are they? They way it has been stated here is there is no operator at all. So its basically like a plane where it pretty well flies itself but there are still pilots and co-pilot at the helm on each flight. Plus I do not know why people are fixated on these trains needing to be driverless. Just to eliminate a drivers pay per train. As if that will really bring down the fares
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Yeah - it would be cost effective - because you can dispatch extra trains to serve the pre and post-football or hockey game crowds and other events - without having to pay a unioized driver for an 8 hour shift. Ditto for eliminating split shifts to cover morning and evening rush hours.
 
From the TTC website at this link, a Public Open House:

Public Open House: Future Vehicle Maintenance and Storage Facility & Western Alignment Update for Keele Street to Jane Street

June 12, 2012

Metrolinx and the TTC invite you to attend an Open House to learn about a number of new developments and improvements for the project and to share your input on preliminary plans for:

  • The future Light Rail Vehicle Maintenance and Storage Facility at the former Kodak Lands
  • Route alignment from west of Keele Street to the former Kodak Lands and extension of the line to Jane Street, including underneath Weston Road
  • A new Crosstown station near Weston Road


Date: Tuesday June 26, 2012

Time: 7:00 p.m. – 9:00 p.m.

Location: York Memorial Collegiate (cafeteria, east side) 2690 Eglinton Avenue West (at Keele Street)
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Note the notice reads STATION and not STOP. This is a change from the EA, where the recommendation was for a stop.
 
Leslie should be a "station" not a "stop" too. Having a grade crossing at Leslie/Eglinton will create a bottleneck in rush hour due to the large number of people going to the Don Mills/Eglinton area.
 
andrewpmk said:
Leslie should be a "station" not a "stop" too. Having a grade crossing at Leslie/Eglinton will create a bottleneck in rush hour due to the large number of people going to the Don Mills/Eglinton area.
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I don't think there should be a stop at Leslie at all. The area is mostly parkland and the business on the corner is an auto dealership. Ridership is sure to be extremely low and what ridership there is can continue to be served by the bus service that remains on Leslie St.
 
CDL.TO said:
I don't think there should be a stop at Leslie at all. The area is mostly parkland and the business on the corner is an auto dealership. Ridership is sure to be extremely low and what ridership there is can continue to be served by the bus service that remains on Leslie St.
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Even if there is a stop, I don't see any reason they can't design it so it's on the south side of the road, and doesn't interfere with traffic.
 
nfitz said:
Even if there is a stop, I don't see any reason they can't design it so it's on the south side of the road, and doesn't interfere with traffic.
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Definitely. Moving it to the south would have benefits with no dis-benefits that I can think of.
 
CDL.TO said:
Definitely. Moving it to the south would have benefits with no dis-benefits that I can think of.
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Though you may be quiet correct that removing the stop entirely may be a benefit. Though if it may be better for people to get off the Leslie bus in AM rush-hour at Eglinton, and walk to the LRT platform, given how Eglinton is so slow between Leslie and Brentcliffe.

They'd still be better to move it to the south even if there is no stop, to avoid the unnecessary signal on the LRT. This would allow the LRT to run pretty-much un-impeded from Bermondsey all the way to Weston ... with what, 6 or 7 crossings between there and Kennedy if they are serious about avoiding unnecessary crossings. Get rid of some of those unnecessary Scarborough stations, and you could still have quite respectable travel times.
 
CDL.TO said:
I don't think there should be a stop at Leslie at all. The area is mostly parkland and the business on the corner is an auto dealership. Ridership is sure to be extremely low and what ridership there is can continue to be served by the bus service that remains on Leslie St.
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Someday the rail-line that crosses Eglinton at Leslie will be the route of a midtown GO line that goes into north Pickering and a possible rail link to a future Pickering Airport. Perhaps if or when that day comes, you'd have a more sophisticated interchange built here.
 
Paleo said:
The eastern end of the Danforth line is boxed in by the lake. It's the same reason why they didn't want to build a Queen line out to the east end.

Also please stop making the mistake of believing that a few small condo buildings at a station brings in anything more than a pittance of trips.
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happy in mediocrity I see.
So what if the Eglinton Crosstown being 100% grade separated would get their extra ridership (50% more) from te Bloor Danforth line. The B-D line could be extended east to the Eglinto GO Station and regain most of the lost ridership while stop being overcrowded during rush hours.

You're applauding a decision to attract less riders to a line. That's your prerogative.

And please stop assuming that I was banking on a few new condos project to increase the B-D line. I was thinking about an extension to Eglinton GO
 
Questions I want to be answered at the open house, for me, are:

1. Is there to be a Black Creek stop?
2. Will the Weston station do without the crossover tracks and tail track that the EA showed? In other words, the Keele station will have crossover tracks and tail track, and not the Weston station, to serve as an emergency terminal?
3. The Jane stop (and not a station?) will have crossover tracks and a tail track to serve as the western terminal, until the extension to YYZ is built?
4. How will the Kodak facility connect to the mainline, as a level crossing or tunneled?
 
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