CLT
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From today
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usshhep
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I heard many condo buyers have defaulted, anyone has insights?
rdaner
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I don’t but when I walked by here at 6 it looked like the lobby was open.
usshhep
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is it a good sign to see people moving in? lol
Tarazet
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They actually have the gall to call this the Bauhaus Condos. As if aA haven’t been building versions of this same condo for 15 years. This is exactly the flaw, for me, of the principles of modernism in architecture- the stripping away of decorative elements. Who goes to New York to look at One Chase Manhattan Plaza? Architecture fans go to see Lever House and the Seagram building, as I did. After that, what’s the point of visiting One Chase Manhattan? There are scores of interesting buildings to see in New York and clones of Seagram aren’t on most people’s list.
DSCToronto
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Maybe read the newspapers or scan the web - I doubt this building is suffering from buyers' remorse more than other similar ones.
Northern Light
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Well....funny you should say that............
Occupants/owners are now moving in........and making a discovery with which many are not happy............ no garbage chutes!
Buyer raises a stink over a new high-rise with no garbage chutes
Hauling your own trash down an elevator isn’t commonplace for tall multifamily buildings. High costs, tight spaces may be to blame
www.theglobeandmail.com
Lamb development didn't get back to the media inquiring about this...........but aA did:
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"As industry experts point out, garbage chutes may be commonplace, but they are not a requirement in the building code in Ontario for any size of multifamily building."
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Further discussion by assorted industry types notes:
Cost of chutes is about 10k per floor or ~300k in a 30 storey building {which is a rounding error)
A lawyer notes that the absence of chutes should really be disclosed at time of sale, but that this is not an explicit requirement.
A planner notes that the absence of chutes (forcing owners/tenants to take the elevator for garbage runs) will impact vertical circulation both in wear/tear on elevators (and may I add, self-evidently will impact wait times for elevators with greater than typical traffic levels}
Did anyone else need another reason to dislike Brad?
I'm frankly not thrilled with aA here either. I realize some here will defend people doing what's legal to make money; I just take a different view, just because you can, doesn't mean you should.
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DSCToronto
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My goodness, I can see anonymous garbage bags in the stairwells or things being thrown from windows. That really should be illegal.Well....funny you should say that............
Occupants/owners are now moving in........and making a discovery with which many are not happy............ no garbage chutes!
Buyer raises a stink over a new high-rise with no garbage chutes
Hauling your own trash down an elevator isn’t commonplace for tall multifamily buildings. High costs, tight spaces may be to blame
Lamb development didn't get back to the media inquiring about this...........but aA did:
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"As industry experts point out, garbage chutes may be commonplace, but they are not a requirement in the building code in Ontario for any size of multifamily building."
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Further discussion by assorted industry types notes:
Cost of chutes is about 10k per floor or ~300k in a 30 storey building {which is a rounding error)
A lawyer notes that the absence of chutes should really be disclosed at time of sale, but that this is not an explicit requirement.
A planner notes that the absence of chutes (forcing owners/tenants to take the elevator for garbage runs) will impact vertical circulation both in wear/tear on elevators (and may I add, self-evidently will impact wait times for elevators with greater than typical traffic levels}
Did anyone else need another reason dislike Brad?
I'm frankly not thrilled with aA here either. I realize some here will defend people doing what's legal to make money; I just take a different view, just because you can, doesn't mean you should.
NY99
Active Member
We've been living in Bauhaus' world for damn near a century. The public has never warmed up to it. Whenever we emerge, and ornamentation is once again the norm, buildings like this will quickly come to symbolize a bygone era and become dated and detested. Mark my words.
GenerationLee
Senior Member
Good grief...no garbage chutes??
I would've thought that was a given if you're building a highrise residential project. I definitely expect trash to fly off balconies on buildings like this....atleast occasionally.
I would've thought that was a given if you're building a highrise residential project. I definitely expect trash to fly off balconies on buildings like this....atleast occasionally.
1Ć0
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I've seen rental buildings throughout Toronto with no garbage chutes. You just take your garbage/recycling with you when you're leaving for example. It's like that with organic waste; many buildings built pre 2008ish don't have an option in the chute for it, so you have to take your organic waste to the garbage room yourself. It is quite rare though for a condo in Toronto to not have a chute on each floor.Well....funny you should say that............
Occupants/owners are now moving in........and making a discovery with which many are not happy............ no garbage chutes!
Buyer raises a stink over a new high-rise with no garbage chutes
Hauling your own trash down an elevator isn’t commonplace for tall multifamily buildings. High costs, tight spaces may be to blame
Lamb development didn't get back to the media inquiring about this...........but aA did:
View attachment 734600
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"As industry experts point out, garbage chutes may be commonplace, but they are not a requirement in the building code in Ontario for any size of multifamily building."
***
Further discussion by assorted industry types notes:
Cost of chutes is about 10k per floor or ~300k in a 30 storey building {which is a rounding error)
A lawyer notes that the absence of chutes should really be disclosed at time of sale, but that this is not an explicit requirement.
A planner notes that the absence of chutes (forcing owners/tenants to take the elevator for garbage runs) will impact vertical circulation both in wear/tear on elevators (and may I add, self-evidently will impact wait times for elevators with greater than typical traffic levels}
Did anyone else need another reason dislike Brad?
I'm frankly not thrilled with aA here either. I realize some here will defend people doing what's legal to make money; I just take a different view, just because you can, doesn't mean you should.
But it is very common in Vancouver and throughout Europe to not have chutes
Northern Light
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For the most part, the older buildings w/o chutes tend to be comparatively shorter, certainly under 15s. Though doubtless there are exceptions.
Older buildings also often come w/more generous unit sizes and elevator ratios providing some wiggle room.
I think the concern on a new build is that if you've got a bare minimum of elevators as it is; and you then create several dozen extra trips on them on any given day, waits go from a little bit long, to quite long.
Also, I think that even in Europe or elsewhere, people aren't really keen to share the elevator with someone bringing down a stinking pile of garbage. Its just a fact of life they have to endure, not a preferred choice.
My building used to have chutes, they were shuttered some time ago.
But it has the advantages I noted above; another note though, was that as a condition or removing the chutes, it was agreed the building would have to provide pickup at the door for mobility impaired/frail residents, which building staff do twice a week.
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ProjectEnd
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DSCToronto
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Tri-sorters are generally a nightmare and disabling them and returning to only a garbage chute is common. It probably means some recycling and organic goes into the garbage but .......