Johnny Au
Superstar
I too pronounce Xitter as such. It no doubt has enxittification of a different kind, the horrible kind in fact.
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Undead
Senior Member
"currently"? Twitter's been that way since it's inception lol. To make this post on topic, we unfortunately have similar unreasonable yimby views expressed here sometimes as well. Also I'm curious about the logic of applying for more height in the current market conditions. Unless it's play with a view toward rates falling next year.
GenerationLee
Senior Member
I just call it Twitter, and ignore the current period its in right now. Which sounds delusional...but so does a lot of the stuff on Twitter.
A height increase on this to 52 floors is quite impressive, and makes me laugh a bit, since this area really feels like its the strangest shmorgasboard of an old townsite with heritage inventory, forgettable stuff from the twentieth century, and plenty of transit stations to suffice for high density.
However, this is not a great assessment of the area, as I've only gone there...4 times in the last 5 years?
christiesplits
Senior Member
I don't think I can handle 52 storeys of spandrel.
telefann
Active Member
We've been in this spandrel phase for what...20ish years now and counting? Toronto's developers and architects need to start realizing that they ought to be building one of the world's great metropolises of tomorrow, not a giant Nowheresville.
ProjectEnd
Superstar
Anything in particular making you believe that Toronto really is that Elysium?
telefann
Active Member
Tomorrow, not today. And as a patriotic Canadian, let me extrapolate on that and put forth the proposition that the country as a whole could very well become a great power in the coming centuries, as counterintuitive and improbable as that may sound. We in this city and nation all need to stop succumbing to the cynicism that we'll be perpetually mired in cultural mediocrity until the end of time, notwithstanding our current circumstances.
Toronto was born a provincial, irrelevant blue-collar colonial backwater with a generous sprinkling of parsimonious Presbyterian values. It won't stay that way forever. Let's remember that we only began overtaking Montreal in metropolitan clout within Canada itself barely several decades ago, and we have so much new blood coming in from all corners of the globe. We're the leading city of a top-15 or even top-10 economy and a nation that will likely grow in clout in the long-run, and a massive cultural change is happening under our feet.
And perhaps needless to say, I do sense that architectural standards are steadily but noticeably improving these last few years. There's a good deal of stuff coming out now whose calibre wouldn't have been conceivable even 10 years ago. I get the sense that the proposal here would've been average or even above-average in 2000 or 2005. It is decidedly below-average in 2025, judging by what's being proposed (and constructed!) these days. As disappointing as this particular proposal is, it only serves to indicate that the bar is being raised.
Don't get me wrong; I'm as harsh a critic of Toronto's lacklustre, spandrel-laced, and rusty-wire-strewn urbanistic status quo as anyone else on this site, but I won't ever entertain the fatalistic pessimism that this will be us ad infinitum.
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Application Details
www.toronto.ca
Resubmission to clear OLT's conditions of Final Order with the following stat changes:
- Total vehicular parking decreased from 109 to 105
- Total bicycle parking decreased from 652 to 648
- Minor height increase by 3cm
- Minor Total GFA decrease
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70Challenger
Active Member
Misanthropic!
ProjectEnd
Superstar
Yo dawg, we heard you liked Burke, so we put a Burke in your Burke so you can get Burked while you Burke.
Northern Light
Superstar
I'll give myself away if we're ever in the same venue and I hear you use that speech style........I'll be the one falling over laughing.....
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UtakataNoAnnex
Superstar
Of coarse, because the developer is Marlin Spandrel...