I agree about the impractical layout ; especially absense of kitchens behind the walls. It would need a nearby pantry with open shelving for items such as a Kitchen Aid mixer. This is geared towards buyers with private chefs/catering etc.

But your gas stove comment is bizarre, imho...especially considering this is a luxury project.
It's akin to saying "why are we still buying oil paintings in 2025 when you can have a flatscreen TV to display art instead?" Or questioning why we are still selling Cuban Cigars in 2025 because of health concerns. A lot of luxurious joys in life are intangible and go beyond a spreadsheet.
It should come down to the consumer's choice.

Personally, I would never pay a premium for a luxury condo without at least a hookup for a gas stove. The only better alternative to satisfy me would be hydrogen gas cooking which isnt available yet.

55 Delisle offers better value for money as far as phenomenal location, all the features Id ever want for a much lower price point.

The islands would have to have multiple outlets to meet Code. Lots of "luxurious" ways of hiding them.

Regarding gas stoves, I believe they are inferior to induction for cooking. But preference aside, putting gas stoves in new condo buildings locks us into infrastructure that creates greenhouse gases for decades when we have more than adequate alternative technology.

Something else people don't widely consider is that gas stoves are terrible for interior air quality and damage your health, especially if you have any form of breathing problem. They leak natural gas, even when not in use, and create volatile compounds when the gas is burned.

If you think about it, there's nothing luxurious about burning a dirty fossil fuel inside your home. You wouldn't run an exposed kerosene heater or a two-stroke engine inside your condo, so why this? Because it's been marketed to you as luxury.
 
The islands would have to have multiple outlets to meet Code. Lots of "luxurious" ways of hiding them.

Regarding gas stoves, I believe they are inferior to induction for cooking. But preference aside, putting gas stoves in new condo buildings locks us into infrastructure that creates greenhouse gases for decades when we have more than adequate alternative technology.

Something else people don't widely consider is that gas stoves are terrible for interior air quality and damage your health, especially if you have any form of breathing problem. They leak natural gas, even when not in use, and create volatile compounds when the gas is burned.

If you think about it, there's nothing luxurious about burning a dirty fossil fuel inside your home. You wouldn't run an exposed kerosene heater or a two-stroke engine inside your condo, so why this? Because it's been marketed to you as luxury.

Proper ventilation is key (in addition to actually using the vent when cooking) It's more damaging to breath in gasoline exhaust fumes sitting in a car in rush hour than proper ventilation above a gas stove. Its also far more damaging to "vape" or use e-cigarettes but Ive seen no push to outlaw it.

I dont drive or smoke and Im pescatarian, so I think the gas stove is a worthwhile risk tradeoff for my enjoyment/preference.

I also mentioned Id happily switch to hydrogen gas when it hopefully becomes available, but all-electric units (as in a condo without no gas hookup) being marketed as luxury just screams scammy/cheap-out to me..... Then again theres people whod rather have a huge LCD screen on their wall and a garish gaming chair in a living room rather than a quality piece of fine art. At the end of the day, it should be the consumers choice and the consumer can do their own due diligence. Meat consumption is also worse for the environment/animal welfare than the benefit/impact ratio of nat. gas but Im not going to demonize meat eaters just because Im not one.

I also wouldnt discount the process that goes into making the induction stove; the rare earth minerals and sheer amount of diesel machinery required to extract them. Canadian Natural Gas is very clean by international standards. Im not demonizing anyone who uses induction from an environmental perspective but trying to put things into perspective. In my experience it's great for boiling pasta water, but lacks the "oomph" factor and enjoyment for sautee-ing.

Not knocking your preference, just showing a different perspective and moreso aiming my critiques at misleading developer use of the word "luxury"
 
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Proper ventilation is key (in addition to actually using the vent when cooking) It's more damaging to breath in gasoline exhaust fumes sitting in a car in rush hour than proper ventilation above a gas stove. Its also far more damaging to "vape" or use e-cigarettes but Ive seen no push to outlaw it.

I dont drive or smoke and Im pescatarian, so I think the gas stove is a worthwhile risk tradeoff for my enjoyment/preference.

I also mentioned Id happily switch to hydrogen gas when it hopefully becomes available, but all-electric units (as in a condo without no gas hookup) being marketed as luxury just screams scammy/cheap-out to me..... Then again theres people whod rather have a huge LCD screen on their wall and a garish gaming chair in a living room rather than a quality piece of fine art. At the end of the day, it should be the consumers choice and the consumer can do their own due diligence. Meat consumption is also worse for the environment/animal welfare than the benefit/impact ratio of nat. gas but Im not going to demonize meat eaters just because Im not one.

I also wouldnt discount the process that goes into making the induction stove; the rare earth minerals and sheer amount of diesel machinery required to extract them. Canadian Natural Gas is very clean by international standards. Im not demonizing anyone who uses induction from an environmental perspective but trying to put things into perspective. In my experience it's great for boiling pasta water, but lacks the "oomph" factor and enjoyment for sautee-ing.

Not knocking your preference, just showing a different perspective and moreso aiming my critiques at misleading developer use of the word "luxury"
Gas stoves as a luxury item?? You know, gas stoves were historically cheaper and widely available, so it’s amusing to me that they’ve suddenly become this “luxury” item in some circles. In reality, gas is marketed as premium because chefs prefer it, but that’s just branding and largely the result of the natural gas lobby’s influence.

Induction, on the other hand isn’t just faster at boiling, it’s far more efficient (over 90% energy transfer vs just ~40% for gas), safer (the surface stays cooler), easier to clean, and offers precise control that gas can’t replicate.

It also wins on the environmental front, especially in Ontario where the grid is already quite clean thanks to hydro and nuclear providing our baseload power. Sure Canadian natural gas is cleaner but it’s still a fossil fuel: it releases CO₂, and methane leaks from production are an even bigger climate issue that people conveniently ignore.

Mining rare-earth metals for induction stoves is but a one-time environmental cost, whereas burning gas creates ongoing emissions Every. Single. Time. you turn on that gas stove.

As for hydrogen, that’s still a looong ways away. Large-scale production, storage and transport are all highly energy intensive, and hydrogen is more dangerous for home use. It leaks easily due to its small molecular size, is harder to detect because odorants don’t mix as well with it, and because of its lower ignition energy it’s easier to ignite accidentally. These are significant safety and infrastructure challenges that will probably take a decade or two to overcome before hydrogen could become commonplace.

Bottom line is, yes it actually is not uncommon for induction to be marketed as “luxury” due to it's modern, sleek look. Gas meanwhile will always have appeal for some cooks and to those with a personal preference for this supposed "oomph" factor it has. But calling gas it a “luxury” feature? That's just a sales gimmick.
 
Gas stoves as a luxury item?? You know, gas stoves were historically cheaper and widely available, so it’s amusing to me that they’ve suddenly become this “luxury” item in some circles. In reality, gas is marketed as premium because chefs prefer it, but that’s just branding and largely the result of the natural gas lobby’s influence.

Induction, on the other hand isn’t just faster at boiling, it’s far more efficient (over 90% energy transfer vs just ~40% for gas), safer (the surface stays cooler), easier to clean, and offers precise control that gas can’t replicate.

It also wins on the environmental front, especially in Ontario where the grid is already quite clean thanks to hydro and nuclear providing our baseload power. Sure Canadian natural gas is cleaner but it’s still a fossil fuel: it releases CO₂, and methane leaks from production are an even bigger climate issue that people conveniently ignore.

Mining rare-earth metals for induction stoves is but a one-time environmental cost, whereas burning gas creates ongoing emissions Every. Single. Time. you turn on that gas stove.

As for hydrogen, that’s still a looong ways away. Large-scale production, storage and transport are all highly energy intensive, and hydrogen is more dangerous for home use. It leaks easily due to its small molecular size, is harder to detect because odorants don’t mix as well with it, and because of its lower ignition energy it’s easier to ignite accidentally. These are significant safety and infrastructure challenges that will probably take a decade or two to overcome before hydrogen could become commonplace.

Bottom line is, yes it actually is not uncommon for induction to be marketed as “luxury” due to it's modern, sleek look. Gas meanwhile will always have appeal for some cooks and to those with a personal preference for this supposed "oomph" factor it has. But calling gas it a “luxury” feature? That's just a sales gimmick.

Matter of perspective. From my standpoint calling induction a luxury feature is a gimmick. And Im far from alone, Bourdain was also quoted many times as detesting cooking on electric. I wouldnt be so quick to chalk up what chefs prefer to marketing alone. Many are in the profession for a love of it. I would hate to have to give up oil ,acrylic, and watercolour painting and have create all my art on a tablet because it's supposedly carbon neutral.

So as far as your opinion on gas being a gimmick, the cats already out of the bag and there are millions in Canada like me who would never prefer anything else apart from hydrogen gas.

The concern over emissions of Nat Gas is silly imho. If all 40 million Canadians were abducted by aliens and left the planet, then it would only reduce global CO2 emissions by 1.9%

Most of the eyesore units and architecture Ive witnessed going up is/was contemporary, so a "sleek" induction cooktop dosent do much for me. Neither does the design of "sleek" smartphones, or flatscreens etc. imho It's just another soulless digital gadget, with beeping noises and all.
 
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lol quoting Anthony Bourdain’s opinion on gas stoves to support the argument that a luxury condo needs them. I’m sure he would love that kitchen design.

Gas stoves in luxury apartments are a bougie affectation. The people buying these units think of gas as “luxury” because it isn’t in regular people’s houses, not because they are gourmands. (And also because they can list it in the resale listing as a distinguishing feature.)

The infrastructure is pointless, damaging to the environment and harmful to human health. New York State has even banned them in new builds. If you are a lover of cooking and can’t make a good meal on induction or a plain electric range, I think the problem’s you, not the stove.
 
lol quoting Anthony Bourdain’s opinion on gas stoves to support the argument that a luxury condo needs them. I’m sure he would love that kitchen design.

Gas stoves in luxury apartments are a bougie affectation. The people buying these units think of gas as “luxury” because it isn’t in regular people’s houses, not because they are gourmands. (And also because they can list it in the resale listing as a distinguishing feature.)

The infrastructure is pointless, damaging to the environment and harmful to human health. New York State has even banned them in new builds. If you are a lover of cooking and can’t make a good meal on induction or a plain electric range, I think the problem’s you, not the stove.
It's nice that people can have different preferences. But Respectfully, I dont think you're obliged to force your preferences on consumers who disagree or advocate for ripping out or flushing away tens of thousands of dollars of value from their biggest investment because it offends your sensibilities.

I dont go lecture people who smoke Cuban cigars or use vape pens (even if I think they are silly) or people jetset around the world (the biggest possible emissions contributor is air travel , and jet-setting is a favorite pastime of public servants and the political commentariat who ironically push these kinds of net zero "mandates" as a living)

Some people obsess over health but I make calculated decisions of weighing health concerns with life enjoyment. Im not going to give up lemon capellini pasta or my bagel and lox just because "experts" think I should eat some ketogenic or gluten-free fad diet. I guess that makes me "anti science"? So be it!

I have a sneaking suspicion many of these people pushing mandates are the same people who troll forums and call Richard Wengle or RAMSA designs 'schlock', yet they've never even picked up a drafting pen or watercolour brush...people devoid of creative talent.

I dont drink but Im not going to lecture people who enjoy drinking about the potential of cancer down the road because of what "experts" posted online.
 
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Their kitchens make me feel better about being unable to afford their apartments. As I mentioned before, I'm not putting away my 30 lbs KitchenAid stand mixer after use. There are so many older apartments on the resale market that have vastly superior layouts. This is from their website: it's beautiful but dysfunctional; if you cook at all, you know what I mean. It's just not meant to be used at all.

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That's brutal...anyone who cooks somewhat regularly would struggle here, without trying to MacGyver some solutions to try and fix a few issues here.
 

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