milkycontent said:
This issue of employment lands is maybe the biggest question city planners need to contend with right now. Residential applications are encroaching on employment lands across the city -- in Etobicoke along the Queensway, Golden Mile in Scarborough and the Eastern Waterfront/Portlands/East Harbour among others
We need to decide where it makes sense to maintain these needed industrial/employment zones and where mixed-use along with added res density is desired.
Urbanizing and allowing mixed-use in this area close to the core and waterfront makes way more sense to me than adding 50 storey towers along Eglinton East out in the burbs.
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In theory, I'm with you............but this particular site is not on a transit route, nor near higher order transit, in that context, Eglinton (where the Crosstown exists, and may one day open) makes somewhat more sense.

milkycontent said:
Could we consolidate some of the industrial uses in this waterfront neighbourhood elsewhere? Maybe parking mail trucks on the waterfront is not the best use of space?
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Employment wise, the key in this area is the film/tv/production business. There is good reason for its proximity the core, and to the Lake as a lot of location shoots feature these spots.

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While the Canada Post site could certainly go elsewhere, and may well..........

Is directly across from the Sewage Treatment plan really the height of desirable development? I gotta tell ya, it often doesn't smell that way to me.
 
I'm not saying anything definitively, merely pointing out the need for some decisions to be made. Obviously Ashbridges is immovable and I agree I wouldn't want to live next door (I've been a guest at Ashbridges Yacht Club, I've smelled it!) but I believe the City needs to make it clear where they want to go mixed-use and where they want to keep industrial now, instead of letting it go on a case-by-case basis where you end up with random pockets of housing surrounded by warehouses and concrete factories. What is the plan?
 
Difficult to wrap your head around the heritage retention on this one... some quasi restoration, lots of replication. I can't form an opinion on whether I love or hate this. 😅
Really nice to see such a small lobby and most of the ground level being retail spaces of various sizes.


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This whole area south of Eastern Ave. is being under utilized for its potential. I must say however this is one area I can drive to and be almost guaranteed to get a free parking spot. A true luxury so close to downtown.
 
I guess this proposal was bound to happen. I lived in this building for roughly three years prior to buying a home in Leslieville. We had an east-facing loft unit on the second floor and it was fabulous until one rent hike too many encouraged us to think bigger. Over the years this building has become junkier and junkier and I don't think there's any residential left there. It's a hodge-podge but at one time it was well-maintained and had a great vibe.... I'm still friends with former fellow tenants who lived there, over two decades ago now.

Still... I agree with those who contend that the transit infrastructure and scheduling just isn't there to support the significant influx of people this project implies.
 
^I am inclined to support this as there is transit all around and a lot of people will use the services surrounding this project. Plus there is biking/scootering/Über etc that make this less isolated than many scrollers assume.
 
If you're an avid all-weather cyclist this location offers superb access to the lakeshore bike trail as well as the MG trail hugging the lake further south... I see lots of daily commuters zipping along.

But the Leslie bus is pretty anemic and the Queen car's reliability and practicality of late has been challenged by ongoing detour hell, thanks to the Ontario Line works. This building as proposed represents a huge influx of people and there's nothing residential of this height anywhere nearby.

That said, the residential plans along Commissioners is also going to usher in significant density. Still, access to public transit options down there again represents challenges.
 
And just to add that there are buses that go along Commissioners that originate at Pape?. Anyways bus frequencies can always be increased. And Chat GTP has the walk to the future subway at 10 mins so will average it out and say ~15.

I see Lakeshore East following the same path as The Queensway, Marlee and Sheppard East and assume most people recognize that despite not agreeing with it.
 
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Doubtless they will.

I remember biking with east-end friends to work at a scenic shop in what is now Liberty Village... this would have been 1997 or so. We would bomb westward on Commissioner Street with practically zero traffic, all the way to Cherry and then on to the Martin Goodman Trail. Now Commissioners is considerably heavier with traffic, and of course this was decades before the terraforming for the Don River which looks so splendid today.
 
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