Never one to wish for a church demolition, but damn that church on the corner is not pretty.
Anyone been in there?
Did it used to be pretty?
It looks like the brick was replaced in the 1960’s.
 
687 units with 5 elevators.

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You're correct-ish, it does not, however if this kind of thing were legislated we could reduce one of the consistent falsehoods about usable GFA in valuation and sales.

And depending on who were to take this on years down the line, I know of many developers who absolutely would not add a cab...
 
ProjectEnd said:
You're correct-ish, it does not, however if this kind of thing were legislated we could reduce one of the consistent falsehoods about usable GFA in valuation and sales.

And depending on who were to take this on years down the line, I know of many developers who absolutely would not add a cab...
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Did you catch the Globe piece on elevators last week, PE?

www.theglobeandmail.com

Opinion: Canada’s outdated elevator rules are adding to the housing crisis

The high cost of elevators is a barrier to the development of affordable, accessible homes
www.theglobeandmail.com www.theglobeandmail.com
 
Northern Light said:
Did you catch the Globe piece on elevators last week, PE?

www.theglobeandmail.com

Opinion: Canada’s outdated elevator rules are adding to the housing crisis

The high cost of elevators is a barrier to the development of affordable, accessible homes
www.theglobeandmail.com www.theglobeandmail.com
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That story is aimed at opening up competition by allowing European elevators into our standards. It's not about how many should be required in buildings... but it does argue that allowing for European elevators would being the prices down enough that it wouldn't be so expensive to install each one, bringing more of them. That's good, and we should, but it wouldn't address another key issue for Toronto towers: Planning should be exempting the space that elevators take up within the 750m² floor plates, or at least exempting the fifth and subsequent shafts from the count. That floor plate restriction, brought in when the average tower proposal was about 40 storeys with larger suites, is a problem now that we have taller towers with more suites (and people) per floor.

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@HousingNowTO will wish to note that with the height boost the applicant has proposed to increase the number of affordable units from 7 to 10.

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I can be persuaded on the height, but I am less enthusiastic about the enlarged floor plate from 750m2 to 800m2.

The combination of the two, as noted by @ProjectEnd above is driving an unreasonable elevator to unit ratio, in conjunction with unreasonably small unit sizes.

The floor plate is also an issue insofar as some of the separation distances are on the small side.

This is, in many ways, an example of how you get rigid rules on floor plates, angular planes, separation distances and more........in which some City flexibility on each of these is being used to extract the maximum from all of them.

Flexibility is suppose to be, you ask for a bit of give and we offer a bit of take. This new version of this proposal is somewhat out of balance.
 
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