[FormerTorontonianBackInTO]

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Given that much of the "employment" uses here are office, I think that this MAY be affected by the office market, AND the new Provincial Planning Statement, which redefines "employment area", excluding office (unless associated with manufacturing or warehouse uses, similar to corresponding 2024-10-20 changes to "area of employment" under the Planning Act), and which also allows for employment conversions to be done at any time (no longer limited to time of a municipal comprehensive review of the OP)

 

[Koops65]

 

[rdaner]

Great! There is a great retail strip on Liberty past the stadium as well as the new buildings at Dufferin/Bloor.

 

[ShonTron]

Yeah, I’m definitely not in favour of this one. The old brick-and-beam factories in west Liberty Village are among the few things that give the area any character. It’s also a creative industry hub, and it should stay an employment area, rather than another cash-in that provides nothing back to an area that deserves better.

 

[goodcitywhenfinished]

I think this area of Liberty Village in its current form is pretty bad and does the historic architecture a disservice. However, I don't think we need to make this a hyper-dense community.

The model for urban development here should be more Vieux-Port and less Garrison Point.

This would also be a great area to build out the city's nightlife and cultural scene and for that reason should stay primarily as employment lands. Noise complaints kill culture and Toronto is running out of space for people to be loud and have fun.

 

[Tyrang]

I think this area of Liberty Village in its current form is pretty bad and does the historic architecture a disservice. However, I don't think we need to make this a hyper-dense community.

The model for urban development here should be more Vieux-Port and less Garrison Point.

This would also be a great area to build out the city's nightlife and cultural scene and for that reason should stay primarily as employment lands. Noise complaints kill culture and Toronto is running out of space for people to be loud and have fun.

I felt like this is overwhelmingly what I hear. The disdain of new towers here is not so much NIMBYism, but that this space was meant for something better then what we are getting. Liberty feels like it could have been a Distillery District. I could have swear that this is what ppl imagined would have happened in the beginning.

 

[Johnny Au]

What Liberty Village needs is a large bronze bell that is very durable. It would be better than Philadelphia's:

Liberty Bell - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[103x]

Getting rid of the parking spot minimums was a huge mistake. I wouldn't buy a place without it.

 

[rdaner]

^That is great but one little point of clarification: parking minimums only mean that the developer has the flexibility to allow the market to determine how many spaces to provide.

 

[maestro]

The market is a snap shot of today. Buyers can barely afford a shoe box. (700 something units in 55 storeys) A car is out of reach than it being "a lot less" desirable than 25 year ago. With that said, Toronto can't continue to add more parking spaces with the number of homes being built in the greater downtown area and with roads shrinking.

 

[ShonTron]

I think this area of Liberty Village in its current form is pretty bad and does the historic architecture a disservice. However, I don't think we need to make this a hyper-dense community.

A few new buildings in West Liberty Village are quite good, like 80 Atlantic (Universal Music) or 99 Atlantic. They have good commercial spaces at ground level, and provide more employment spaces for the types of industry that’s already located in the area.

We should have more of that around LV instead of this investorbox dreck.

 

[AlbertC]

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Agenda​

This virtual community consultation meeting will introduce the application at 147-151 East Liberty Street and 54-66 Fraser Avenue. The application proposes a 55-storey mixed-use building that will incorporate the existing building facade. The proposal consists of a total of 732 residential dwelling units and approximately 44,379 square metres of total gross floor area, including approximately 1,140 square metres of office space.

Agenda
Introductions
City Presentation
Application Presentation
Questions and Comments
Next Steps

 

[J Martin]

Oh good, I know how worried everyone in Liberty is that there aren't enough wind-generating shadowy towers with too few elevators. The traffic in Liberty is horrendous, so what's another 55-story tower.

 

[Northern Light]

Since the above poster made me look............

This one was appealed to OLT.

Its already had its CMC and is headed to a Merit Hearing on November 30th, 2026.

Case Information

An interesting objection here.........that is NOT from the City:

* Cross post to Billy Bishop thread)

 

[ADRM]

Since the above poster made me look............

This one was appealed to OLT.

Its already had its CMC and is headed to a Merit Hearing on November 30th, 2026.

Case Information

An interesting objection here.........that is NOT from the City:

View attachment 739641

* Cross post to Billy Bishop thread)

If the TPA thinks this one is close to the BB flight path, wait until it hears about...the Province's own TOC towers a couple blocks south of here...