Just as @ProjectEnd promised.....she's arisen from her coma............. a year later. @Paclo

Now at 17s

From the Cover Letter:

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From the Planning Report:

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And updated renders for @3Dementia

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PE seems to have good insight on this one so I'll ask a silly question and see if he's able to answer.

I like this proposal well enough, but given that the adjacent Green P garage is being declared surplus and made available for redevelopment.........wouldn't it make sense to consolidate those parcels and come back w/something much taller?
 
All I can really say here is I have no idea why they submitted this as it's not what is planned overall here (unless it's multi-phased, but that makes things ever-more complicated). This site is separate from the Green P which will be coming to market as a CreateTO site when the time is right.
 
ProjectEnd said:
All I can really say here is I have no idea why they submitted this as it's not what is planned overall here (unless it's multi-phased, but that makes things ever-more complicated). This site is separate from the Green P which will be coming to market as a CreateTO site when the time is right.
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To keep things moving in the event the ‘overall’ doesn’t pan out.
 
Are they considering this still as a market rate rental or it might be sold off as condominium units when the market picks up again...
 
Front Page story on this one from Stephanie Calvet:

urbantoronto.ca

Resubmission For Yonge-St Clair Area Proposal Prepares to Go Alone | UrbanToronto

The City of Toronto is reviewing a revised zoning application to permit a 17-storey residential building at 11 Pleasant Boulevard across from the St Clair subway station. Three years after its first submission, Resident is proposing a new design by BDP Quadrangle that will bring additional units...
urbantoronto.ca urbantoronto.ca
 
ProjectEnd said:
All I can really say here is I have no idea why they submitted this as it's not what is planned overall here (unless it's multi-phased, but that makes things ever-more complicated). This site is separate from the Green P which will be coming to market as a CreateTO site when the time is right.
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Totally agree.
Tuscani01 said:
To keep things moving in the event the ‘overall’ doesn’t pan out.
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I think this comes down to CreateTO sadly failing to capitalize on comprehensive redevelopment opportunities not necessarily due to a lack of trying, but rather due to staffing shortages, competing priorities (like Housing Now) and likely a lack of experience/expertise in house; as opposed to Resident/Plaza stubbornly going off on their own to make this work. There are multiple slam dunk, city owned sites like this across the city in fantastic locations that CreateTO could sole source to abutting landowners/developers who have experience and let them comprehensively plan + redevelop. They just did it with Collecdev at 267 Merton. At least it's starting to happen, though there have been a lot of missed opportunities. @HousingNowTO can probably write a dissertation on this.

I think the other big thing that complicates redevelopment of Green P here (and likely a few other nearby sites) is that the subway runs immediately beneath it
 
Looks like according to recent City Council "City Council on May 21, 22 and 23, 2025, adopted the following:"

1. City Council direct the City Solicitor and appropriate City staff to attend the Ontario Land Tribunal in opposition to the current application regarding the Zoning By-law Amendment appeal for the lands at 11 Pleasant Boulevard.

2. City Council direct the City Solicitor and appropriate City staff to continue discussions with the applicant in an attempt to resolve outstanding issues.

see more here: https://secure.toronto.ca/council/agenda-item.do?item=2025.TE22.7
 
artyboy123 said:
Looks like according to recent City Council "City Council on May 21, 22 and 23, 2025, adopted the following:"

1. City Council direct the City Solicitor and appropriate City staff to attend the Ontario Land Tribunal in opposition to the current application regarding the Zoning By-law Amendment appeal for the lands at 11 Pleasant Boulevard.

2. City Council direct the City Solicitor and appropriate City staff to continue discussions with the applicant in an attempt to resolve outstanding issues.

see more here: https://secure.toronto.ca/council/agenda-item.do?item=2025.TE22.7
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Bit late, LOL

First case management conference was back in March.

Next one is June 9th, 2025.

 
The site tbh pose some questions or concern:

@Northern Light

- the site is narrow and would a skinny tower be "good planning"?

- who would be the end buyer for these product given the ultra low parking space proposed...renter but given the neighbourhood is quite higher end.
 
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