[EnviroTO]

A 2nd wheel for the middle does nothing for the rear ride.

I have a hard time believing that. A second wheel in the middle means the middle is kept level to the road in the same way the front of the bus is (going on the assumption both sets of wheels remain on the ground). If the third section of the bus is of similar length, has similar wheel positioning, and similar coupling to a MT articulated bus then the ride should be similar.

 

[BurlOak]

Now what is the operating ratio cost wise for these buses compare to LRT??

I would guess the operating cost is better than running three 40' busses. I would also guess that the capital cost is less than LRT. The true test is to ammortize both costs over the life of the technologies - there is only one taxpayer so its the total cost that counts the most.

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

That's an interesting fact, especially considering that Dufferin is a Major Arterial Route. It's funny to see that the original Dufferin route was the northern section, and the extension was to the south. I'm to assume that the 63 Ossington as well as the 47 Lansdowne were carrying the load before then? And are you implying that the steep inclines/declines were the reason why service wasn't extended to this stretch of Dufferin prior to 1961?

Between Rogers and Eglington, there are a couple of rolling hills that can be tricky if not salted. When the Oakwood streetcar was replaced by the 63 Ossington, that was around the same time the 29 Dufferin bus was extended.

 

[urbandreamer]

There are easy and logical solutions to slippery hills. One, simply don't run these buses on hilly routes during snowy weather. Really how often are streets like that in Toronto? A dozen times a year perhaps? Change the routes so the bendy buses get the flat routes & the shorty's the hills.

The TTC simply doesn't like the idea of these buses due to decreased demand for drivers.

 

[doady]

There are easy and logical solutions to slippery hills. One, simply don't run these buses on hilly routes during snowy weather. Really how often are streets like that in Toronto? A dozen times a year perhaps? Change the routes so the bendy buses get the flat routes & the shorty's the hills.

So the transit agency should buy extra 40 foot buses and store them just in case the artics can't be used when it snows during winter in a Canadian city? Great idea.

 

[urbandreamer]

You missed my point. The bendy buses could either short turn on hilly parts or turn into another route. Let's say it's on Dufferin and it starts snowing. So it turns onto Dupont and the short buses on Dupont take over the Dufferin route.

 

[drum118]

You missed my point. The bendy buses could either short turn on hilly parts or turn into another route. Let's say it's on Dufferin and it starts snowing. So it turns onto Dupont and the short buses on Dupont take over the Dufferin route.

You are now forcing riders to transfer as well wait for a 40' bus just like today. Great move.

You are now going to spent about $1.3m for this bus where a $700,000 is doing the job today on a short time frame for snow.

Dupont has a hard time filling 40' buses now and now you want to put these buses there.

How many plans and schedules does TTC need to to come up with to deal with these buses so riders aren't confused and deal with the weather??

 

[urbandreamer]

Or we could just put chains on the tires in snowy conditions. Problem solved. (Yes change the law only for buses.)