[ssiguy2]

If he wants to really change Toronto, he should get rid of all parking spots on MAIN streets with 6 blocks of Yonge south of Dupont and use it 100% for sidewalk expansion. As for Yonge itself, it's a complete mess and truly one of the ugliest and most pedestrian unfriendly streets in the city. Is there a single patio between Dupont and Union? It's not for the lack of foot traffic but strictly because the sidewalks are pathetically thin and in grim repair. Preferably Toronto will grab some balls and make Yonge completely pedestrianized from King to Bloor with deliveries allowed up to 10am.

 

[Northern Light]

If he wants to really change Toronto, he should get rid of all parking spots on MAIN streets with 6 blocks of Yonge south of Dupont and use it 100% for sidewalk expansion

Why are you posting so angry? I generally support the idea you're advocating for here.......though I would note that its not strictly the purview of the Chief Planner, it would have to be agreed with Transportation and/or have Council force the issue.

. As for Yonge itself, it's a complete mess and truly one of the ugliest and most pedestrian unfriendly streets in the city. Is there a single patio between Dupont and Union? It's not for the lack of foot traffic but strictly because the sidewalks are pathetically thin and in grim repair.

I get it............who are you trying to convince.

Preferably Toronto will grab some balls and make Yonge completely pedestrianized from King to Bloor with deliveries allowed up to 10am.

This is a bad idea, and won't happen, Yonge has a night bus and needs to allow for Shuttle buses if the subway is down.

By now, you should know that a new plan for Yonge from Queen to College has been proposed and approved, which will narrow the road by one lane per direction and give that space over to sidewalks.

Detailed design, including options to make a couple of the blocks very visibly pedestrian priority is now under way.

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Not really discussed in any detail publicly, but not a secret, if only because I've discussed it here before, is that the intent is to extend that treatment from Davenport to Queen's Quay, more or less (likely retaining one to two extra lanes right around the Gardiner, but that's TBD. There would still be cycle tracks and improved sidewalks.

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Its great to thoughtfully advocate for good ideas, but its also good to do so without any needlessly aggressive language, and preferably while keeping up on what plans are.....

 

[Tuscani01]

Yonge has a night bus and needs to allow for Shuttle buses if the subway is down.

The TTC's last shut down had no shuttle buses and just redirected passengers to the other portion of the U instead, which might as well just be the norm since it's not that far of a walk. Night buses and shuttles for larger subway closures can always just use Bay street. It would take some time for passengers to adjust to this reality, but I don't see this is a valid enough reason to not just pedestrianize Yonge entirely.

 

[Northern Light]

The TTC's last shut down had no shuttle buses and just redirected passengers to the other portion of the U instead, which might as well just be the norm since it's not that far of a walk. Night buses and shuttles for larger subway closures can always just use Bay street. It would take some time for passengers to adjust to this reality, but I don't see this is a valid enough reason to not just pedestrianize Yonge entirely.

Last weekend, the TTC had a scheduled shutdown from Bloor-Yonge to Osgoode.

Shuttle buses replaced the subway, with lower weekend volumes the buses were near constant, and dispatched in pairs, with about six lined up at each end.

Diverting that over to Bay if you're starting from where subway service ends is not an immaterial issue. At King, in this case there was no service on either side of the U.

For unscheduled shutdowns, not having Yonge as an option ....

I'd be open to seeing it modeled but I have real concerns.

For N-S night buses, that extends the E-W gap, there's already no night service from Yonge to Parliament, that's a big gap, now moving that to Bay to Parliament?

Also for night service, the bus on Bay will need to end up on Yonge at some point......turn restrictions and pedestrian volumes would generally preclude using Bloor

I think we could discuss the idea of timed retractable barriers to deliver daytime pedestrian only ....

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At any rate, its in detailed design now.............unless the directive was changed, we're not getting full pedestrianization. Maybe pedestrian priority in 2 blocks

 

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