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What about splitting up the TTC and privatizing it?

By that I mean creating two separate arms length city companies, one for the heavy rail network, and one for streetcars, LRT and buses.

Might be a solution to our TTC strike threats....

The problem I see with that is that the company operating the feeder network wouldn't have overly strong incentive to connect to the subway. That is, unless we're talking about forcing routes, frequencies, etc. just having the operations outsourced.
 
That is, unless we're talking about forcing routes, frequencies, etc. just having the operations outsourced.

If we're ever talking about outsourcing, that should be the ONLY way to frame the conversation. The public must retain control over where, when and how often the routes are run. Anything less is deliberately shooting ourselves in the foot.
 
I wasn't talking about out-sourcing, I was talking about separate private non-profit city corporations for the components of the TTC...ie London Underground and London Buses.
 
I wasn't talking about out-sourcing, I was talking about separate private non-profit city corporations for the components of the TTC...ie London Underground and London Buses.

But those are cases of out-sourcing. The london buses are run be a dozen or more private companies on behalf of TfL. They get paid by TfL to run a certain frequency on a certain route, but they can increase service at the own expense if they feel they can make a profit.
 
I wasn't talking about out-sourcing, I was talking about separate private non-profit city corporations for the components of the TTC...ie London Underground and London Buses.

Wait a minute, how would that be different from what we have now? There are two different meanings to "private", I am confused as to which one you mean.

On one hand, you could mean a private, non-publicly traded, company in which one party, presumably the muni or provincial govt, owned the shares privately. This is sort of like the Tokyo Metro, which is a private company owned by the Tokyo & National governments. I don't see how this would be much different from a Crown Corporation.

On the other, you could mean a company owned by private interests which may or may not be publicly traded. Management would be decided by shareholders, via a board of directors and proxy votes, who would have a natural profit maximizing incentive. In essence, like any other company from Microsoft to the Dutch East India Company. You specifcly called this a "non-profit city corporation", when the city wouldn't be responsible for the operation of it and no reasonable shareholder would invest in a company which designed not to seek profits. The best proxy for this type system is the HK MTR which is, as far as I know, the only publicly trade mass transit company.
 
As I see it, possible solutions for the TTC going forward:

1.) Business as usual. Publicly owned, administered and operated. The pros and cons of the system are unchanged

2.) GTA-wide system. This would amalgamate all of the transit services in the GTA into one agency, presumably under Metrolinx. Still publicly owned, administered and operated. Maybe leave the operation of buses to local bodies, but other than that a top-down approach to transit planning.
Pros: presumably a seamless network from Oakville to Oshawa, routes which aren't profitable can be kept for "networking" sake, operational decisions are still largely under the public discretion.
Cons: Large annual subsidies necessary, routes are susceptible to political pressures as opposed to economics, no incentive to increase operating efficiency, could become very "clunky" and non-responsive.

3.) The London model: A government owned and operated agency (either the TTC or GTA equivalent) owns route franchises, brand names, sets fares and dictates operational minimums. Private for-profit firms bid for individual route and maintenance contracts. So long as minimums are met, private companies can adjust service levels to maximize their profit. Routes which are not profitable would receive a subsidy from the government.
Pros: Incentive to maximize efficiency, lower cost of service, integrated regional service (if done at a GTA scale), more responsive to local needs, enough public oversight to insure basic route standards and promote "networking".
Cons: Would still likely need a subsidy, likely to see service cuts on off-peak service, debatable cost advantage, less public oversight wrt wages & salaries.

4,) The England Model: Public transit is deregulated. Private companies serve routes as they see fit based on economic considerations. Private firms operate outside the jurisdiction of the local transit agency, effectively operating as a parallel service. Governments may or may not run a publicly owned system within this. Subsidies would be necessary.
Pros: Drastic efficiency gains, operating costs could plummet by 30-50%.
Cons: Everything else, ridership plummets, "high grading" whereby profitable routes are acquired by private companies and non-profitable routes are left to the government, private operators often destroy their own market share by making their network incompatible with competitors, slight monopolistic tendencies. Really, a horrible option.

5.) The Friedman Model: No rules, unregulated free market economics. So long as an operation passed criminal codes, it could provide a service. Roads, or at least highways, would have to be privatized to ensure fair competition. A kind of congestion charge on local roads would also be necessary to ensure road transit isn't subsidized vis a vis highways or transit.
Pros: Public transit would start to turn a profit.
Cons: Nobody really knows what would happen. The closest example is HK, and the GTA is hardly HK. Economic theory would suggest this is the best option, but who knows?
 
So long as an operation passed criminal codes, it could provide a service.

In Hong Kong, many of the minibuses are operated by companies with alleged links to the Chinese Triad. Minibus drivers have been known to cut off drivers from rival companies (rival gangs?) and get into fistfights with each other to compete for passengers.
 
In Hong Kong, many of the minibuses are operated by companies with alleged links to the Chinese Triad. Minibus drivers have been known to cut off drivers from rival companies (rival gangs?) and get into fistfights with each other to compete for passengers.

Sure would make the morning commute more exciting...

The Pharmacy bus would take on a whole new meaning :p
 
What about combining heavy rail in the GTA....ie transfering responsibility for subways over to GO Transit. That way subways would be designed with a much more regional perspective and the TTC could focus on local bus and LRT routes.
 
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3.) The London model: A government owned and operated agency (either the TTC or GTA equivalent) owns route franchises, brand names, sets fares and dictates operational minimums. Private for-profit firms bid for individual route and maintenance contracts. So long as minimums are met, private companies can adjust service levels to maximize their profit....

Cons: Would still likely need a subsidy, likely to see service cuts on off-peak service, debatable cost advantage, less public oversight wrt wages & salaries.

Why service cuts? Wouldn't the regulator (i.e. the government agency), by definition, want to set out precise figures as to how frequent the winning bidder would have to provide the off-peak service?

5.) The Friedman Model: (...) Economic theory would suggest this is the best option, but who knows?

I don't think economic theory would suggest that. Some economists would no doubt suggest that. But many -- more? debateable, I guess -- economists would probably come up with different elaborations of what you call the London model. I believe that's what the economists at most development agencies who fund stuff like this are doing these days.
 
In Hong Kong, many of the minibuses are operated by companies with alleged links to the Chinese Triad. Minibus drivers have been known to cut off drivers from rival companies (rival gangs?) and get into fistfights with each other to compete for passengers.

Just have to go down to Atlantic City to see this.
 
What about combining heavy rail in the GTA....ie transfering responsibility for subways over to GO Transit. That way subways would be designed with a much more regional perspective and the TTC could focus on local bus and LRT routes.

It's TTC bread and butter as most local routes are money losters in the first place. Now give GO Sheppard and TTC will have some money to spent else where.
 
Why service cuts? Wouldn't the regulator (i.e. the government agency), by definition, want to set out precise figures as to how frequent the winning bidder would have to provide the off-peak service?
Good question. Many routes have seen service increases. Look at the plan to signficantly increase service on the London Overground routes now it is controlled by the Mayor of London.
 
Found this, a bit old, but still somewhat relevant:
http://andrewcoyne.com/columns/2006/10/theres-better-way-to-run-ttc.php
The Toronto Transit Commission advertises itself as “The Better Way.†Dutiful urbanists that they are, Torontonians are taught to believe this, or certainly to say it. Indeed, a strange cult surrounds the system: there are websites devoted to it, a magazine, clubs. One particularly dedicated transit fancier spent the summer photographing every one of the city’s 69 subway stations.

Their actions belie them. Transit worship may be at an all-time high, but transit ridership is still below where it was 15 years ago. What no one is allowed to say, but everyone secretly knows, is that riding the TTC is not a terribly pleasant experience: slow, crowded, slow, inconvenient, and did I mention slow? And so anyone who can avoid using the TTC generally does.

For those who see the TTC as the answer to the gridlock that now holds much of Toronto in its grip, this presents a conundrum. The traditional solution to the problem of how to get more people out of their cars and onto the buses is more subsidy. But you could give the tickets away -- you could pay people to take them -- and a great many commuters still wouldn’t choose the TTC. Not so long as the private automobile alternative remains as (relatively) fast (Statistics Canada figures show it takes a transit user an average of 41 minutes longer to get to and from work than a car user), pleasant, and cheap as it does. And not so long as the TTC remains so institutionally unconcerned with the needs and desires of the travelling public.

Simple arithmetic would dictate that more passengers per vehicle equals fewer vehicles on the road equals more road space per vehicle. But while mass transit is obviously part of the solution, it’s not so obvious that mass transit has to mean the TTC, or at any rate not the TTC as it is currently structured. Put it this way: if we were really serious about transit, if it is as vital as we all say it is, if we wanted to make riding the bus such a delightful experience that passengers would give up their beloved cars for it, is this the model we would choose -- a monolithic, state-owned, vaguely Stalinist monopoly? Or if we did, would we let a bunch of politicians run it?

The TTC has many problems. It is notoriously underserviced: just three subway lines, 52 years after the first was opened, for a city of 2.4 million people. Where there are surface routes, service is haphazard and brutish, designed more to make life easy for transit employees than the people who use the system. The commission’s continuing love affair with the streetcar, decades after most other North American cities abandoned them for the bus, is a mystery, given their obvious limitations: not only are they slow and ungainly, even by public transit standards, but by taking up so much of the road they slow everyone else down to their pace. To say nothing of their cost, frequent breakdowns, damage to roads, unsightly wires, and so on.

But the bulk of the TTC’s drawbacks are less owing to particular mistakes of implementation than to its very position as a state monopoly. Though the TTC is not heavily subsidized relative to most other transit systems, it is still expensive: at $300 million annually, its operating subsidy is the second-most expensive item in the city’s budget, after the police. (And that’s just the explicit, on-budget subsidy -- never mind the exemption from corporate income taxes, or the effects of the city’s underwriting of the cost of capital, among the usual peculiarities of public-sector accounting). Strikes, given the double monopoly position its unionized workforce enjoys, are a recurring event -- though, as it has been observed, in Toronto, as in no other city, the traffic generally moves faster during a transit strike.

And of course, there’s the political interference. The model of the independent, professionally run Crown corporation, insulated from meddling politicians, is not one with which Toronto’s city council seems familiar. The chairman of the TTC is in fact a member of council: since 1998, it has been that most political of politicians, Howard Moscoe. The result: tired of having their decisions over-ruled, their positions (in labour negotiations, notoriously) undermined, the TTC’s last two general managers have both resigned in disgust. Meanwhile, city council has just awarded a $700 million contract for 234 subway cars to Bombardier, without considering other bids, on the novel grounds that this would create jobs 900 miles away, in Thunder Bay. Is that really the responsibility of the TTC?

So perhaps the time is ripe to look at alternatives. At a bare minimum, it is remarkable that Toronto has not considered reform along the lines many cities across North America and around the world have adopted, that is of making the city not the provider of transit services, but the purchaser. Instead of one giant public sector monopoly, routes are put out to competitive tender, on a mix of price and performance criteria. The commission would remain responsible for the overall transit grid, but the operation of the component parts would harness competition and private sector flexibility in an attempt to find ways to deliver better service at lower cost.

The savings can be impressive. London Transport, for example, the world’s largest urban transit system, reduced costs per vehicle kilometer by 51 percent from 1985, the year Britain launched its ambitious transit reforms, to 2000. Once freed to think outside the TTC box, private entrepreneurs might decide it made more sense to use nimble little minivans on slightly used routes, rather than bone-shaking, half-empty buses. They might rethink the present uniform fare scheme, charging more for longer distances, less for shorter. Or not: the point is to try different approaches, and compare the results.

Still, this remains a limited form of competition: the criteria for assessing performance would remain those that occurred to transit planners, rather than passengers, who would remain in the grips of a local monopoly, albeit one that had been competitively awarded. The more full-throated form of competition, as Britain opted for in cities outside London, would allow competing bus services to ply the same routes. The advantage: entrepreneurs would have even more incentive to dream up new ways of attracting passengers. Perhaps comfier seats? More flexible routes? On-board ice cream vendors?

The disadvantage: it’s not as simple as that. The experience in Britain has been decidedly mixed. While cost savings were achieved, these were not always passed on to passengers. Instead, companies have seemed to compete on frequency of service, swooping in at a given stop just ahead of their rivals, or flooding routes with buses to ward off such predation.

Does that make the whole idea misguided? Not necessarily. The American economists Daniel Klein, Adrian Moore, and Binyam Reja have proposed auctioning “curb rights,†granting companies the exclusive right to pick up passengers at a given stop for a given period of time. A company that had invested in attracting passengers to its stops would no longer have to suffer a competitor reaping the rewards.

Whichever model is adopted, the point remains the same: it is competition, not subsidy, that is the way to revitalize transit. Subsidy, in fact, has the opposite effect. Entrepreneurs will only lie awake at night thinking of how better to serve passengers when their entire livelihoods depend on it. To the extent that they are instead compensated by the state, that incentive is reduced.

In any event, it’s unnecessary. Put tolls on the roads, as proposed elsewhere in this series, make drivers pay the full cost of their filthy habit, and taking the bus will suddenly look a lot more attractive.
 
It seems Andrew Coyne is more interested in the TTC than the average national journalist.

Andrew Coyne

Smash the Toronto transit monopoly
After the 2003 blackout, the last time Toronto commuters had to walk to work -- the city’s electrically-powered subways and streetcars having been knocked out along with everything else -- the newspapers were filled with solemn meditations on the deeper meaning of it all: man’s dependence on technology, the fragility of power grids, an interconnected world, etc. etc.

This time the city’s transit system was shut down by a strike, the fourth since 1989, and no such search for root causes seems to have occurred. The Toronto Sun fumed that someone should pay for all the disruption. The Toronto Star demanded the transit workers’ union apologize. A Globe columnist speculated the union leader might be suffering from an overdose of testosterone. There was even a call to have transit strikes declared illegal, apparently in the belief that this would prevent illegal strikes such as Monday’s.

But the problem is not that transit strikes are legal, any more than it is that union leaders are irresponsible (or male). Unions strike when it is to their advantage, and it is to their advantage, typically, where they hold some kind of monopoly -- if not, other workers would simply step in to fill the gap. In the present case, the union benefits from a double monopoly: the monopoly it enjoys on the supply of labour to its employer, the Toronto Transit Commission, and the monopoly the TTC enjoys over its customers. But of course the one is the product of the other. Were there no transit monopoly, the union’s would dissolve as well.

So entrenched is the TTC’s monopoly that many people may assume public transit is some sort of “natural†monopoly, like electricity transmission, where the initial costs of constructing the network confer massive economies of scale, allowing the largest firm to price its competitors out the market. It isn’t: to run a bus service all you need are a few buses. Even the subways could make room for competing providers on a common set of tracks.

The reason public transit is a monopoly, not only in Toronto but in cities across Canada, is not nature but statute. Unannounced as this latest strike was, within hours improvising entrepreneurs had come up with alternatives: the TV news showed some delighted commuters sharing a limo downtown at $20 a pop. But at most times the providers of such private transit services would face prosecution. Strikes may be legal, but competing with the TTC is strictly verboten.

And the costs of monopoly are not just counted in strike days. The TTC is in the grip of a spiral of escalating costs, rising prices, and stagnant ridership. While taxpayers pick up roughly 50 cents of the cost of every journey (at more than $300 million this year, the TTC operating subsidy is the second most expensive item in the city’s budget, after the police), service is notoriously poor, marked by a patchy subway network, half-filled buses, and the commission’s disastrous love affair with its undependable, unsightly, slow-moving streetcars.

While the TTC remains stuck in the monopoly rut, around the world the movement is toward competition in public transit. Britain’s remains the most radical experiment: in 1985, the streets of Britain were thrown open to competition from private bus services, in every city outside London. The results, admittedly, have been mixed. While costs were slashed by 42 per cent, partly by experimenting with minivans, jitneys and other alternatives to the traditional bus, prices have not moderated to the extent hoped.

Firms have instead tended to compete on timeliness, scooping up riders by arriving at a stop minutes before their rivals: a tactic known as “schedule jockeying.†To guard against this, some firms took to swamping their routes with hordes of buses, giving rise to worsening congestion and competition-inhibiting economies of scale.

So in many other cities, from Copenhagen to San Diego, a different model was adopted: putting out routes to competitive tender, or “contracting outâ€. Here the record of savings to the taxpayer is unambiguous, and it is hard to see why Toronto should not have learned from the experience of neighbouring municipalities, such as Hamilton, where costs are demonstrably lower. If the TTC is as efficient as its supporters claim, it should have nothing to fear.

But while safer politically, this is largely a static model, with little incentive for innovation in service delivery. A third model would combine the first two, correcting for some of the deficiencies of the British model by auctioning off “curb rights†-- that is, the right to pick up passengers from a given stop for a given time interval. That way, firms that had incurred the costs of gathering passengers in one spot would not see their investment profit their competitors.

But which sort of competition works best is a debate for another day. For now, it is enough to agree, as Toronto’s transit riders surely must: abolish the monopoly!
 

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