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Rainforest said:
For a lot of people, that's not an option. You either get the job offer, or don't get the offer. Very few employers will change their mind and hire you if you agree to work for 2% less, or even for 10% less.
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I live 8 km from work. I could find a job that pays 10% more if I was willing to move or drive to the other side of the GTA.
 
DirectionNorth said:
Can you afford to lose income/increase expenses with housing being so expensive?
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Me personally? Yes. I can.

DirectionNorth said:
Given the cost of living, I doubt that is the case for most people.
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If you have a low income service job and need to drive 40km to get to it, you're doing life wrong. It is insanity for us to even try to make this achievable. Take a different low income service job close to home and don't spend 2 hours each way on transit trying to get to it. Spend more time with your family and friends.
 
afransen said:
If you have a low income service job and need to drive 40km to get to it, you're doing life wrong. It is insanity for us to even try to make this achievable. Take a different low income service job close to home and don't spend 2 hours each way on transit trying to get to it. Spend more time with your family and friends.
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The point being that there are many factors for lifestyle choice (can an ethnic Punjabi live 15 km from the nearest Punjabi community center and groceries, for example) and before transit is competitive, congestion charges will reduce choice for people.
 
DirectionNorth said:
before transit is competitive, congestion charges will reduce choice for people.
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The choices are already reduced: it takes an hour to go 30 km by car. People have only so much time to spend on transportation... it's not just money that is a limitation.
 
afransen said:
The choices are already reduced: it takes an hour to go 30 km by car. People have only so much time to spend on transportation... it's not just money that is a limitation.
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Time has always been the limiting factor for commute. 1 hour per direction is roughly the peak commute regardless of mode or culture. That might be a 4km walk in 1960's Hong Kong (before transit and cars were readily available) or 250km on the Shinkansen today.
 
afransen said:
I live 8 km from work. I could find a job that pays 10% more if I was willing to move or drive to the other side of the GTA.
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The individual circumstances vary. Some people are in your situation, being able to keep a shorter commute in exchange for not getting a pay rise.

But many other people get just one job offer. Or two job offers, but both jobs are located far from where they live. They have to either take the offer or get no job at all.
 
Rainforest said:
The individual circumstances vary. Some people are in your situation, being able to keep a shorter commute in exchange for not getting a pay rise.

But many other people get just one job offer. Or two job offers, but both jobs are located far from where they live. They have to either take the offer or get no job at all.
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This was exactly my experience in my most recent job search. I tried local (30 minute drive) and got no offers and not many interviews. When I opened my search up to all of the GTA I then got tons of interviews and the job offer (50+ km away).
That's real life vs. Theory of 'how things should be'
 
About and hour after this section was shut down for demolition this coming weekend.


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What a ridiculous mess that waterfront Toronto and the short-sited city councillors are creating in this city they have no clue what they are doing. They are letting Wtertfront Toronto make decisions that they have no busesn having ther hands in and they ar disregarding peopminthe east end oif the city whgo want to get downtown shame on them. I hope Tory is gone and the next counsel stops this fool of as project and rebuilds this much-neded ramp.
 
EastYorkTTCFan said:
What a ridiculous mess that waterfront Toronto and the short-sited city councillors are creating in this city they have no clue what they are doing. They are letting Wtertfront Toronto make decisions that they have no busesn having ther hands in and they ar disregarding peopminthe east end oif the city whgo want to get downtown shame on them. I hope Tory is gone and the next counsel stops this fool of as project and rebuilds this much-neded ramp.
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The plan is to rebuild a new ramp to Lake Shore but that would be much closer to Cherry St. They just phased it badly and left people exiting at Jarvis on a single lane ramp till 2024+. The next exit is at Bayview past Bloor on the DVP which is an insane detour. They should have built a temporary exit around Eastern in my opinion.
 
Steve X said:
The plan is to rebuild a new ramp to Lake Shore but that would be much closer to Cherry St. They just phased it badly and left people exiting at Jarvis on a single lane ramp till 2024+. The next exit is at Bayview past Bloor on the DVP which is an insane detour. They should have built a temporary exit around Eastern in my opinion.
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The problem is city council doesn't really care about the people of Toronto anymore all they care about is what can get them a picture in the media so they can pat themselves on the back and say job well done now when is my next photo opportunity.
 
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