[gabe]

Cameras don't do anything for theft, though.

When I worked at a convenience store we were robbed once and had video of the thieves. Gave the video to the police and they shrugged and said "we can't be sure who this is from the video". If police aren't willing to be proactive then you can have as many headshots as you like but it won't make a lick of difference.

Ford here is taking away items that penalize car owners whilst proposing items that protect car owners. Pretty simple stuff.

Yep. LCBO is a great example of camera's not stopping theft. Even the low paid security guards in the store haven't stopped the theft. Nothing they can do. They are just human scarecrows.

My friend works at an LCBO, they get people stealing every week. They have been told by the union, just ignore it, and don't get involved

Six guys walked into an LCBO last month in Kitchener and walked out with 8 thousand dollars with of booze.

Premier calls out ‘brazen’ LCBO theft at Kitchener, Ont. store

Premier Doug Ford called the men who stole thousands of dollars of booze from an LCBO store in Kitchener, Ont. a “brazen bunch of crooks.”

www.ctvnews.ca

 

[Richard White]

Yep. LCBO is a great example of camera's not stopping theft. Even the low paid security guards in the store haven't stopped the theft. Nothing they can do. They are just human scarecrows.

That is both for legal and liability reasons.

Security guards are not police officers and cannot apprehend, arrest or detain someone in the same manner. At most, they can call police for assistance with the matter.

Additionally, most security companies don't want their staff to get involved in case the person's causing the issue have a concealed weapon.

Police are equipped to handle an EDP with a weapon. A noodly, female security guard who may only be doing security part time while studying is not.

 

[lenaitch]

That is both for legal and liability reasons.

Security guards are not police officers and cannot apprehend, arrest or detain someone in the same manner. At most, they can call police for assistance with the matter.

Additionally, most security companies don't want their staff to get involved in case the person's causing the issue have a concealed weapon.

Police are equipped to handle an EDP with a weapon. A noodly, female security guard who may only be doing security part time while studying is not.

Security guards absolutely can arrest people they find committing theft ('shoplifting'), either as citizens or agents of the property owner. it is completely a policy decision on the part of the LCBO (and possibly the security company as well). I suspect most companies with employees have a very similar policy.